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appalachiablue

(43,110 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 05:13 PM Oct 18

Kentucky Man Declared Brain Dead Wakes Up During Organ Harvesting 👀

'Kentucky man declared brain dead wakes up during organ harvesting,' The Guardian, Oct. 18, 2024. - Case of Anthony Thomas ‘TJ’ Hoover II is under investigation by state and federal government officials
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A man who had gone into cardiac arrest and been declared brain dead woke up as surgeons in his home state of Kentucky were in the middle of harvesting his organs for donation, his family has told media outlets. As reported Thursday by both National Public Radio and the Kentucky news station WKYT, the case of Anthony Thomas “TJ” Hoover II is under investigation by state and federal government officials.

Officials within the US’s organ-procurement system insist there are safeguards in place to prevent such episodes, though his family told the outlets their experience highlights a need for at least some reform. Hoover’s sister, Donna Rhorer, recounted how Hoover was taken to Baptist health hospital in Richmond, Kentucky, in October 2021 because of a drug overdose.

Doctors soon told Rhorer and her relatives that Hoover lacked any reflexes or brain activity, and they ultimately decided to remove him from life support, as WKYT noted.

The staff at Baptist then reportedly told Rhorer and her family that Hoover had given permission for his organs to be donated in the event of his death. To honor his wishes, the hospital tested which of his organs would be viable for donation, and the facility even had a ceremony honoring him. Rhorer said she noticed Hoover’s eyes open up and seemingly track his loved one’s movements, according to WKYT. “We were told it was just reflexes – just a normal thing,” she said to the outlet. “Who are we to question the medical system?”

About an hour after Hoover had been brought into surgery for his organs to be retrieved, a doctor came out and explained that Hoover “wasn’t ready”. “He woke up,” Rhorer said. Rhorer recalled getting instructions to bring her brother home and make him comfortable, though he likely would not live much longer. As she said to WKYT, she has been caring for Hoover for the past three years...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/18/kentucky-man-wakes-up-organ-harvesting

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CaliforniaPeggy

(152,475 posts)
2. Such a terrible error!
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 05:19 PM
Oct 18

It's not normally that difficult to check and see if the person is really dead. Did they listen for a heartbeat? Did they check for reactions to painful stimuli? Was he breathing?



bucolic_frolic

(47,622 posts)
6. "the facility even had a ceremony honoring him"
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 05:24 PM
Oct 18

Yeah, I bet they did. I'd be curious to know if this work was done gratis, or if the medical components were being paid.

They look at you for 4 minutes and think they know what's going on. Exercise a little caution, question, do research, talk to friends, get a second opinion.

Mr. Hoover was very much part of a Living Will!

appalachiablue

(43,110 posts)
7. Yes, not so eager, damn. And what's the incentive, payoff. That's one tough
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 05:31 PM
Oct 18

Kentuckian! I hope the family receives a healthy settlement for the hospital's 'mistake.' Life is cheap for some.

appalachiablue

(43,110 posts)
11. Definitely! What has happened to the US? Are Musk & Thiel involved,
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 06:00 PM
Oct 18

a new venture capitalism profit source? JK

cyclonefence

(4,896 posts)
10. I am wary of stories like this from the Guardian
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 06:00 PM
Oct 18

so I check NPR (cited in their report) and by glob this really happened. EXCEPT that the guy was *not* in the midst of surgery. Nurses noticed he wasn't dead while they were filling out paperwork. The original surgeon walked out, refusing "to have anything to do with this," and people quit their jobs in protest over how this terrible mistake occurred.

But no, the guy didn't suddenly sit up with his kidney halfway out and his earlobes harvested for pierced-ear tragedies.

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