Boris Johnson 'will today ask the Queen to SUSPEND Parliament days after MPs return to work just...

[Soph0571]

...weeks before the Brexit deadline'

Under plans to be approved at Balmoral today, MPs will not sit between mid-September and October 14, according to reports.

That will give MPs extremely little time to prevent a No Deal Brexit on October 31, despite cross-party efforts to pass legislation to do just that.

The Government insists the move is a regular procedural step and called it a 'bog standard Queen's Speech process' but opponents of Brexit immediately labelled it a 'dark day for UK democracy'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7402153/Boris-Johnson-today-ask-Queen-suspend-Parliament.html]

And the far right coup is very nearly complete...

[still_one]

1. Prorogation

[T_i_B]

2. One side effect of this

Is that dragging the queen into politics like this is likely that to fatally damage the monarchy. Although Brexshitters are far too spiteful to realise this.

[Ghost Dog]

9. There are apparently 700 members of the Queen's Privy

Council (an obvious fossil anachronism). Was no quorum required?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_British_Privy_Council

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. That's it? Leader of the Commons, Leader of the Lords, and Chief Whip

in Balmoral, are held to be 'the Privy Council' for this purpose? What a pile of crap. The queen ought to be ashamed of herself. Since she's on holiday, she clearly hasn't met with Corbyn, or any non-Tory PC.

Fuck the monarchy. I used to have the position that reforming it was further down the list than things like the Lords, the electoral system and so on, but now she's pushed it into an urgent matter. Defund the timid old bag. She's outlived her usefulness.

[Ghost Dog]

11. That's it. Here's the document:

https://privycouncil.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Orders-Approved-and-Business-Transacted.pdf

[Ghost Dog]

13. "The queen, her majesty, had no discretion over this."

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s Queen Elizabeth did not question the government’s request to suspend parliament for over a month ahead of Brexit, House of Commons Leader Jacob Rees-Mogg said on Thursday.

“The queen, her majesty, had no discretion over this. There is no precedent for the queen refusing a request by her prime minister under these circumstances,” Rees-Mogg told the BBC.

He denied a suggestion that moving to suspend parliament had put the monarch, who by convention avoids any involvement in politics, in an awkward position.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-queen/queen-did-not-challenge-suspension-of-uk-parliament-rees-mogg-idUKKCN1VJ0NX

... So there is no Head of State to serve as a moderating influence such as in the Irish or even Italian Republics, for example. So a government and/or PM of the day is free to act via "Royal Prerogative" dictatorially.

The royal prerogative is a body of customary authority, privilege, and immunity, recognized in common law and, sometimes, in civil law jurisdictions possessing a monarchy, as belonging to the sovereign and which have become widely vested in the government.[note 1] It is the means by which some of the executive powers of government, possessed by and vested in a monarch with regard to the process of governance of the state, are carried out. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative

[Pachamama]

3. I would love it she denied the request...

However because of incident Andy/Epstein, my guess is she will not...

[Denzil_DC]

4. Statement from Bercow's office:

Johnson's letter to MPs:




The Privy Council will meet at Balmoral today to discuss the prorogation.

It's not unusual for the government to control the timing of the Queen's Speech, but the five-week suspension is unusual in length (the longest Parliament has been suspended in the last 40 years is three weeks, and on occasion it's been suspended for just a few days between suspension and the Queen's Speech).

Those left with egg on their faces include Amber Rudd and Nicky Morgan, who denied this move was on the cards, an anonymous government spokesman four days ago, who said, "The claim that the government is considering proroguing parliament in September in order to stop MPs debating Brexit is entirely false," and Andrew Webster, QC for the government in the Court of Session on 13 August, who asserted during proceedings to block prorogation (which are still ongoing, and the parties led by QC Jolyon Maugham, MPs Joanna Cherry and Ian Murray et al. are urgently seeking an interim order to prevent suspension) that it was "misreading and misrepresentation" to claim Johnson wanted to obstruct or delay that process.

[Denzil_DC]

5. Guardian reporter Rob Davies sums up the situation:

Link to tweet

Rob Davies
@ByRobDavies

Rest of the world: Taking back control, huh?

UK: Sure am.

RoW: Cool, go democracy! So what's the plan?

UK: Well first our unelected Prime Minister asks the hereditary monarch to suspend parliament...

[Soph0571]

6. Spot on n/t

[underpants]

7. Just as Putin wanted.

[muriel_volestrangler]

8. This ought to be enough to get all opposition parties to support Corbyn as a caretaker PM

Get him to state clearly that involves saying to the EU we will have a new referendum and election, so we need an extension. Then I hope some Tories can support that plan. That enables an immediate no confidence vote, but rather than having to wait too long before the election can be held (2 weeks to see if a new government can be formed, then 5 weeks before an election), you get the change of government, and thus who negotiates with the EU, at once.

That's what I hope for now.

[Ghost Dog]

12. Here's the political editor at the Irish Times:

The reported decision of British prime minister Boris Johnson to suspend - or “prorogue” - parliament for over a month as the clock ticks down to the Brexit date of October 31st will provoke a huge storm in the UK and almost certainly incite a parliamentary rebellion that his government is likely to lose.

This is most probably his intention. Such a defeat will likely lead to a general election in early October - if not before - in which Johnson will enjoy significant advantages. Some recent polls suggest that the Conservatives enjoy a strong lead and Johnson’s novelty as a prime minister, as well as his enormous capacity to speak to voters and be listened to, will make him a hot favourite to beat his rivals, especially Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn, in a short, sharp campaign.

Crucially, Johnson can go to the country before Brexit - enabling him to run on a promise of delivering Brexit with or without a deal on October 31st, his already familiar mantra since taking office in July. Equally crucially, the election will come before the negative effects of a no-deal Brexit are felt by voters. So Johnson is in a pretty good position to fight an election in the coming weeks...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/the-reason-boris-johnson-might-want-to-suspend-the-british-parliament-1.3999855