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usonian

(15,111 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:47 PM Dec 23

Insurance and Taxes Now Cost More Than Mortgages for Many Homeowners

Hopefully not off the forum charter.

Archived ftom WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/economy/housing/home-insurance-property-tax-vs-mortgage-cost-43ab76ed

https://archive.is/pQSmQ

Insurers have pushed big rate increases because of losses from natural disasters and rising costs to repair homes. Surging home values in recent years, meanwhile, have lifted property taxes for many homeowners.

These ballooning expenses are rewriting the math of homeownership. In September, 32% of the average single-family mortgage payment went to property taxes and home insurance, the highest rate ever for data going back to 2014, according to Intercontinental Exchange.

The analysis is based on borrowers who use escrow accounts to pay their taxes and insurance as part of their monthly mortgage payments.

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Nationwide, taxes and insurance make up more than half of the monthly mortgage payment for 9% of single-family mortgages. That is up from less than 4% at the end of 2014.


And in CA, HOA fees on many owned homes are sometimes crazy. Property taxes reset upon sale/purchase, but increase little until then.



A big help for billionaires with mansions that are never sold.
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Insurance and Taxes Now Cost More Than Mortgages for Many Homeowners (Original Post) usonian Dec 23 OP
It seems Florida is not the bargain it once was. Hassler Dec 24 #1
There's always something. usonian Dec 24 #4
And commercial property Old Crank Dec 24 #2
Yes, that is the scam behind Prop. 13. SunSeeker Dec 24 #3
Corporations never change ownership. Old Crank Dec 24 #5
Yup. It's infuriating. SunSeeker Dec 24 #6
Such homeowners would be better off bucolic_frolic Dec 24 #7

usonian

(15,111 posts)
4. There's always something.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:34 AM
Dec 24

Oregon and Nevada are next to each other.

Oregon has no sales tax. Nevada has no income tax.

Old Crank

(5,092 posts)
2. And commercial property
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:08 AM
Dec 24

That doesn't change hands and remains taxed at pennies on the dollar.

SunSeeker

(54,199 posts)
3. Yes, that is the scam behind Prop. 13.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:28 AM
Dec 24

It's why individuals are paying a larger and larger share of CA property taxes each year compared to corporations. Corporations never die, so they never get their basis bumped up to market value. Disney pays pennies on the dollar for Disneyland property taxes compared to homeowners in the surrounding neighborhoods. May Howard Jarvis rot in Hell.

Old Crank

(5,092 posts)
5. Corporations never change ownership.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:48 AM
Dec 24

Court case ruled that even if all the stock holders changed it was still the corporation that owned the property so even a complete chsnge of people owning the company means nothing.

bucolic_frolic

(47,922 posts)
7. Such homeowners would be better off
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:23 AM
Dec 24

with a high-deductible or under-insured home to reduce outgoing cash flow, and bank the savings. Unless of course disaster is imminent.

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