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mahatmakanejeeves

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Tue Sep 13, 2022, 08:12 AM Sep 2022

U.S. News college rankings draw new complaints and competitors

HIGHER EDUCATION

U.S. News college rankings draw new complaints and competitors

Education Secretary Miguel Cardona criticizes rankings based on prestige as ‘a joke’

By Nick Anderson
Updated September 12, 2022 at 9:46 a.m. EDT | Published September 12, 2022 at 12:02 a.m. EDT

Mocking the chase for prestige in higher education, Education Secretary Miguel Cardona declared last month any system of ranking colleges that values wealth, reputation and exclusivity more than economic mobility and return on investment is “a joke.”

Cardona didn’t mention U.S. News & World Report. He didn’t have to. Anyone paying attention knew the target of his critique: the “best college” lists from U.S. News that have shaped the hierarchy of higher education since 1983.

As the latest rankings came out Monday, they faced mounting questions about the data that underlie them, the methods used to sort colleges and universities and the intense competition from other publications that churn out best-this and best-that lists in search of clicks from college-bound teenagers and parents.

Those data looked particularly suspect in July, when U.S. News bumped Columbia University from the lofty No. 2 perch among national universities to the hazy status of “unranked,” after questions were raised about accuracy of figures from the Ivy League school in New York. Columbia said in June it would not transmit data this year as it reviewed the matter.

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By Nick Anderson
Nick Anderson covers higher education and other education topics for The Washington Post. He has been a writer and editor at The Post since 2005. Twitter https://twitter.com/wpnick
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U.S. News college rankings draw new complaints and competitors (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2022 OP
The Colleges that turn away the most students are ranked "the best." Mr.Mystery Oct 2022 #1
Nothing wrong with that picture on the face of it ... marble falls Oct 2022 #2
Well . . . if the goal of higher ed is "social good" Mr.Mystery Oct 2022 #3

Mr.Mystery

(185 posts)
1. The Colleges that turn away the most students are ranked "the best."
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:15 PM
Oct 2022

What is wrong with this picture?

marble falls

(62,534 posts)
2. Nothing wrong with that picture on the face of it ...
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 07:58 AM
Oct 2022

... as long as they fill all open slots, and the criteria rejects the deficient, they are pulling the best.

Are you suggesting Harvard is a snap party school and the education is a secondary after thought?

If the tuition is sky high, and the education is second rate, why are they rejecting more than 80% of applicants (who mostly would have no problem with the tuition)?

Mr.Mystery

(185 posts)
3. Well . . . if the goal of higher ed is "social good"
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 03:12 PM
Oct 2022

because an educated society is simply better by just about every metric one can think of . . .

then we shouldn't be measuring colleges by how many students they DON'T educate.

That is rather counter-productive to the end goal, is it not?

That was my point. The Ivies no doubt provide a good education--I don't criticize them on the quality they provide.


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