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Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:06 PM Oct 2012

Anti-teacher-union “Won’t Back Down” flunks at box office

sprinkled with Schadenfreude.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/anti-teacher-union-won-t-back-down-flunks-at-box-office/



"Won't Back Down," the Hollywood movie portraying teachers unions as pretty much the devil, has set the record for the worst opening since 1982 for films appearing in more than 2,500 theaters. For this dubious distinction it beat out a list of amazingly forgettable titles like "Punisher: War Zone" and "Josie and the Pussycats."

The film, pushed hard by anti-union advocate Michelle Rhee and her StudentsFirst group, opened Sept. 28 to poor reviews nationally. It got a low 33 percent approval rating on film site Rotten Tomatoes' survey of movie critics and an even worse 18 percent rating from the site's designated "top critics."

Kenneth Turan at the LA Times called the film "so shamelessly manipulative and hopelessly bogus it will make you bite your tongue in regret and despair."

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And the Philadelphia Inquirer's Steven Rea called it "a kind of 'Norma Rae' for the Paul Ryan set."

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Anti-teacher-union “Won’t Back Down” flunks at box office (Original Post) Starry Messenger Oct 2012 OP
Mehh Iggy Oct 2012 #1
A pox on the careers of all associated with this film Cirque du So-What Oct 2012 #2
I'm disappointed with Gyllanhall and Davis over this Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #4
they're both full of shit. name the problems or go fuck yourself roguevalley Oct 2012 #11
1. So Davis, who lives in California, knows for a fact that the NYC public school parents who were Smarmie Doofus Oct 2012 #12
Gyllenhaal's kid goes to private school in NYC too. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #15
Apparently Mencken was wrong. You CAN underestimate the intelligence of ..... Smarmie Doofus Oct 2012 #3
Coming out right on the heels of the successful CTU strike Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #5
:golfclap: eppur_se_muova Oct 2012 #14
Excellent gopiscrap Oct 2012 #6
Awesome! Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #7
Beautiful.... Freedomofspeech Oct 2012 #8
corporations want to belly up to the education trough central scrutinizer Oct 2012 #9
+1 lunasun Oct 2012 #10
Smiling in Solidarity! bvar22 Oct 2012 #13
Nice to see you bvar22. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #16
I can only imagine that Josie and the Pussycats didn't do well... harmonicon Oct 2012 #17
. LWolf Oct 2012 #18
Karma Reader Rabbit Oct 2012 #19
 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
1. Mehh
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:10 PM
Oct 2012

this is no surprise.

the so called "progressives" who jumped on the teacher-bashing bandwagon during the recent
teachers strike in Chicago aren't going to go out of their way to go to/pay for a movie
regarding the subject

Cirque du So-What

(27,620 posts)
2. A pox on the careers of all associated with this film
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
Oct 2012

Everyone had to know they were making a RW propaganda film, after all.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
4. I'm disappointed with Gyllanhall and Davis over this
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:29 PM
Oct 2012

They are both SAG-Aftra members, but they are doubling down in the face of criticism from educators.



Maggie Gyllenhaal and Viola Davis appear in the film and broadly support its message. Gyllenhaal stipulates that she's pro-union, but all is not well with the teachers unions. Davis said of the protesters, "There was not one person -- I guarantee you -- that was outside there protesting with a picket sign who had their child in a failing school."



http://articles.philly.com/2012-09-28/news/34149452_1_anti-union-bias-teachers-union-top-charter-school



"There's no world in which I would ever, EVER make an anti-union movie," she {Gyllanhall} said by phone. "My parents are left of Trotsky. That's just not my world, and neither is it Daniel's {Gladwyne-raised director Daniel Barnz}. I don't know Viola's politics actually, so I can't speak to that. But I think that's just such an oversimplified way of looking at the movie - that it's anti-union.

"But clearly - and I don't know anyone who'd disagree - there are huge problems with the teachers union. So you can be in support of a teachers union and unions in general, but if you don't take the time to look at things that are broken - even inside something you support - then it will fall apart completely. Can we not even take a look at ways that the teachers union isn't functioning without being called anti-union? That would be so destructive to creating continually functioning unions."



roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
11. they're both full of shit. name the problems or go fuck yourself
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:35 PM
Oct 2012

ladies. I am sick of teacher bashing. they deserved this fail

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
12. 1. So Davis, who lives in California, knows for a fact that the NYC public school parents who were
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:40 PM
Oct 2012

picketing this... by all accounts .... moronic film, have their kids in.... well, what exactly? Private schools? Posh leafy-green suburban public schools? They were falsely portraying themselves as NYC PS parents? What, on earth, is she talking about? Private school parents are really going to picket a film that trashes the public schools they themselves have... rightly or wrongly... spurned? Well to do suburbanites are going to take the train in from Scarsdale, or wherever, at night, so they can annoy Viola Davis by pretending to be NYC PS parents?

2. Gyllenhaal... if she is to be taken literally... appears to think that all teachers are organized into one "teachers union". It's not an "anti-union" movie but "there are huge problems with the teachers union". She just spent what sounds like a number of months on the set with Davis yet has no idea what Davis' views are re. politics and unionism?

Sounds like they both gave a great deal of political and philosophical thought to the complexities of the issues facing public schools and the efforts of government and private corporations to "reform" them.

Sheeezz. Seems to me the only thing dumber than the movie was the cast itself.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
15. Gyllenhaal's kid goes to private school in NYC too.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:56 PM
Oct 2012

quote from page 2 of the story:



Gyllenhaal, who lives with husband Peter Sarsgaard in New York City, said she would be thrilled if her children could end up in a public school that was great and exciting, but "at the moment my daughter {Ramona} is in private school. The public school that we're zoned for doesn't seem good enough to me."



I'm pretty shocked. I gave her more credit for brains than the average. She's the very kind of parent that Viola Davis accused the protesters of being, ironically. (Brooklyn seemed pretty nice to me, anyway--)
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. Apparently Mencken was wrong. You CAN underestimate the intelligence of .....
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

... the American people.

A bitter but ( i hope) valuable life lesson for these effete, arrogant , insulated elitists.

Given the choice, I'd rather pay to see Josie and the Pussycats. At least that wasn't contemptibly dishonest and manipulative.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
5. Coming out right on the heels of the successful CTU strike
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:38 PM
Oct 2012

is a nice double-whammy too. Can we hope that union-bashing is becoming less trendy?

gopiscrap

(24,219 posts)
6. Excellent
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:48 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:46 PM - Edit history (2)

I hope those anti union fuckers choke on their puke! For 30 years now the repukes have been working to create a climate hostile to public education and teachers in general...what they've expoited is the fact that we have a lot of jealous people in this nation.. yes, teachers get 40K-70K a year, but they've earned it. 5+ years of education after college and managing a classroom and filling children full of knowledge. If you want their benefits, get off your ass, go to college and get a teaching degree...other wise shut your fucking uneducated trap. GO TEACHER UNIONS!!! and btw: I'm not a teacher!

central scrutinizer

(12,441 posts)
9. corporations want to belly up to the education trough
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:24 PM
Oct 2012

if they can destroy public education then the road is open for their for-profit schools. Then only the rich kids will get a high quality education.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
13. Smiling in Solidarity!
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:48 PM
Oct 2012

UNIONS built the wealthiest and most upwardly mobile Working/Middle Class the WORLD has ever seen.
The decline of the Middle Class is directly connected to the crushing of Organized LABOR by the 1% of both Parties.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
17. I can only imagine that Josie and the Pussycats didn't do well...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

because most people would fail to get it. For those who haven't seen it, it's really a pretty biting critique of corporate branding and the big-label music industry.

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