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CrispyQ

(38,603 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 10:38 AM Sep 2019

6 winners and 3 losers from CNN's climate town hall

6 winners and 3 losers from CNN’s climate town hall

https://www.vox.com/2019/9/5/20850009/cnn-climate-town-hall-2020-presidential-democrats-winners-and-losers

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Loser: meat

Several candidates had to contend with variations from the audience on one of the trickiest climate questions: How will you encourage Americans to reduce meat consumption, given the disproportionate greenhouse gas emissions of beef production compared to other foods?

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Several candidates also used the diet question as an opportunity to point out that Republicans have made the hypothetical threat of Democrats taking away Americans’ hamburgers an argument against the Green New Deal. “The important thing to understand is that we can have a more balanced diet and therefore a more balanced footprint and not abolish the cow,” Mayor Pete Buttigieg said. “[Abolishing the cow] is what people are saying about the Green New Deal. Because it’s an easy Republican talking point.”

Buttigieg noted that his carbon tax applied to meat would help curb meat consumption by demonstrating to consumers the climate costs of meat production. “We change the economic signal and bring it into balance, and balance is what we have lost when it comes to our relationship with creation, with the Earth, that sustains our ability to live,” he said.

Booker, who is vegan, suggested that his administration would also rein in subsidies to the meat and dairy industry. “We are going to have to make sure our government is not subsidizing the things that make us sick and unhealthy and hurt our environment and start to incentivize the practices that get farming and get agriculture and get the health of our communities back.” —Eliza Barclay


This issue is long overdue for discussion.

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CrispyQ

(38,603 posts)
4. No. I meant to post it in the Veg forum so we could discuss.
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 10:54 AM
Sep 2019

I'm glad to see the audience brought this issue up. I was surprised, because it shows some people are paying attention & I tend to think they don't. I didn't watch the debate, but I would be curious if the people asking questions about meat were younger. ???

hlthe2b

(106,825 posts)
5. I didn't watch either, but it is interesting it was brought up.
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 10:57 AM
Sep 2019

I just pointed out the forum issue because I keep writing detailed responses, only to find the OP was locked... because of the whole related primary thing...

After a while, I tend to get a little (overly) cautious...LOL

Thekaspervote

(34,844 posts)
2. The Sierra Club goes with Biden. Since 1892 the worlds foremost environmental organization
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 10:48 AM
Sep 2019

Article was published in the Atlantic.

Link was unavailable due to web maintenance on their site

flvegan

(64,659 posts)
10. The Sierra Club? LOL
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 10:57 PM
Sep 2019

You're in the wrong group promoting that hunting/fishing apologist "environmental organization" here.

snowybirdie

(5,690 posts)
3. Trying to appeal
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 10:48 AM
Sep 2019

to a broader electorate won't happen with this argument. Telling folks what to eat will turn off many. Look how Michelle Obama was ridiculed for trying it with children! Perhaps this is why Joe Biden is leading? He's not trying to shake our lives up. He's wants to bring back stability. All the rest can be discussed after Democrats are in power. I agree with most of these ideas, but people have to be convinced and persuaded.

CrispyQ

(38,603 posts)
7. I wasn't suggesting the dems use this as a campaign issue,
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 11:32 AM
Sep 2019

just surprised that anyone bothered to mention it at all. That audience members brought up the issue tells me that people are already starting to be convinced & persuaded.

demmiblue

(37,872 posts)
9. It is sad that some people can't respect the boundaries of protected DU groups.
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 01:48 PM
Sep 2019

Why do they do this?! Weird.

flvegan

(64,659 posts)
11. OMG, I know. How many books did she sell after the fact?
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 11:01 PM
Sep 2019

But yeah, be afraid of everything non-Biden. Thinking is the enemy.

Find another group.

JonLP24

(29,359 posts)
12. Our lives were really shaken up when Biden was behind bankruptcy reform
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:37 AM
Oct 2019

I remember long lines of people trying to beat the deadline for the new bankruptcy rules took effect.

Biden isn't someone I associate with calm & stability. I know probably not an appropriate post for this forum.

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