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Today there are a lot of interesting updates from the Kursk direction.
As the Russian and North Korean assaults at Kruglyenke proved to be nothing short of a disaster, with both attacking sides suffering tremendous losses, Russian commanders decided to redirect their North Korean human waves to another part of the salient. However, their tactics hadn't changed, and with Ukrainians now being well prepared for the North Korean mass charge, the end result seems even worse than before.
Previously, the combined effort of the Russian and North Korean forces suffered heavy losses during their offensive west of Malaya Loknya. Despite committing substantial resources to the assault, they failed to reach the town, incurring hundreds of casualties in exchange for a mere foothold in the forest. This forced them to reassess their plan of attack.
As their assault on the western part of the Kursk salient failed to achieve significant results, Russian forces shifted their focus eastward, targeting the area around Cherkasskoye Porechnoye. Their objective remains the same, to sever a substantial portion of the Ukrainian-held Kursk salient. Capturing Cherkasskoye Porechnoye would pave the way for an advance further south toward Kasachya Loknya, cutting off a key supply route to Malaya Loknya, as conventional attempts to take the town from the north and east have proven impossible.
Russians aim to achieve more success along the eastern flank by deploying North Korean soldiers to assault the forests north of Cherkasskoye Porechnoye and Russkoye Porechnoye head-on. Securing these forests would allow the North Korean troops to amass their forces under relative cover, enabling them to form large assault groups to overwhelm Ukrainian defenders in the two settlements through sheer numbers. Controlling both villages would then allow them to launch further attacks southward through the forest, putting significant pressure on the core of the Ukrainian salient.
If we take a look at the topographic map, we can see that most of the high ground in the area consists of open fields. This means that the forests are the only tactical positions where firing posts can be effectively established, thanks to the tree cover they provide. Moreover, their location north of Russkoye Porechnoye and Cherkasskoye Porechnoye provides both fire control and entry into both villages, which lie in the lowlands near the Sudzha River valley.
Unfortunately for the North Koreans, their first and soon-to-be final obstacle, will prove to be crossing the open fields in front of these forests. Russian commanders had seen the devastation caused by Ukrainian drones and artillery to the unsupported pure infantry assaults over the past days, but still refused to support their North Korean allies with either armored or artillery support; preferring to use them purely as a mass-assault human wave, only meant to weaken Ukrainian positions and take the brunt of the Ukrainain defense.
Combat footage shows North Korean fighters charging across the fields in large groups of purely infantry. Having received just a few weeks of training, most lacked an understanding of modern warfare tactics, leading them to cross open fields in large groups, instead of using small infantry group tactics that Russians have increasingly used as of late. This made them easy targets for Ukrainian artillery as they rushed toward the tree lines. Ukrainian drone operators quickly took to the skies, targeting splintered-off groups of North Korean soldiers with deadly precision. Several North Koreans attempted to shoot down the drones with small-arms fire as they flew in, but the drones proved too agile, as they found their targets nonetheless. Ultimately, the North Korean attack failed, with the entire assault group wiped out and picked off in a brutal and futile charge across the open fields.
Overall, the poorly executed North Korean attacks, compounded by their lack of knowledge about modern warfare, set the stage for disaster, allowing the Ukrainians to exploit their shortcomings and inflict heavy losses. The North Koreans' failure to secure the forests will enable Ukrainians to heavily reinforce their defenses in the area and prepare for another future assault, making the outlook of any renewed assaults be even more catastrophic. This setback will likely compel Russian generals to search for yet another attack vector in a desperate attempt to recover from their repeated failures.
underpants
(187,391 posts)That way. Any way. Take my chances.
It sounds like they are (sadly) fodder.
Irish_Dem
(59,744 posts)They run or rest right out in open fields with enemy drones above them.
underpants
(187,391 posts)However, due to the low skill level of the North Korean soldiers, they were unable to properly conceal themselves or establish defensive positions. This left them highly vulnerable to Ukrainian artillery strikes, drone attacks, and targeted raids, resulting in severe losses and effectively halting their advance.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113346410
Overall, the Ukrainians took advantage of the concentrated North Korean meat-wave attacks and forced them into a narrow area of the valley with little space to maneuver, effectively destroying their entire assault group with deadly efficiency.
Irish_Dem
(59,744 posts)Some of the NK soldiers were just running out into the open.
Even resting and sitting in open fields.
Didn't even bother to conceal themselves.
They have no idea about modern drone warfare.
When the dangerous Ukrainian drones came, the NK soldiers were foolishly shooting at them with their rifles.
NK troops are poorly trained, speak no Russian, often malnourished.
Also reports that the Russians refused to render medical aid to the NK soldiers.
Just lined them up in a row with the dead NK bodies.
Russia is sending them into the Russian meat grinder, just like WWII Stalingrad.
underpants
(187,391 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,744 posts)But they have been shocked by what they are seeing in terms of how bad the NK troops are performing in combat.
Sneederbunk
(15,392 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,744 posts)But instead they are being killed.
Buzz cook
(2,616 posts)I'd think that's the only way there wouldn't be mass desertions.
Irish_Dem
(59,744 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,744 posts)No training, have no idea drones can kill them.
Don't speak Russian. NKs are typically malnourished and disease ridden.