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cilla4progress

(25,984 posts)
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:34 PM Feb 2024

Time to pull the plug on violent dictator Netanyahu.

This latest shooting of folks lined up for food aid...

What is it going to take?

https://wapo.st/3OXXedW - gift article/no paywall

Officials in the Gaza Strip said more than 100 people were killed and hundreds more injured in Gaza City on Thursday, accusing Israeli forces of opening fire on a crowd of people waiting for humanitarian aid. Israel said an unspecified number of the casualties were caused by a stampede as residents scrambled to reach a convoy of trucks. Israeli forces opened fire on members of the crowd who approached soldiers in a manner deemed threatening, according to Israeli officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. President Biden told reporters Thursday that he expected the incident would complicate negotiations over a hostage deal.

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Time to pull the plug on violent dictator Netanyahu. (Original Post) cilla4progress Feb 2024 OP
Israel did not shoot folks lined up for food. madaboutharry Feb 2024 #1
Shootings at food aid in Gaza this morning. cilla4progress Feb 2024 #2
He needs to go he has always been bad for Israel ! kimbutgar Feb 2024 #3
Absolutely. He needed to go years ago. LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #4
from Haaretz-- "Biden Has a Vision for Israel's Future. Netanyahu Doesn't" LymphocyteLover Feb 2024 #5
Yes, now is good. onecaliberal Feb 2024 #6
Who is going to pull that plug? Why is it "time"? Technically it's BEEN time. ancianita Feb 2024 #7
so much disinformation et tu Feb 2024 #8
Gazans throwing rocks at aid trucks from Egypt Mosby Mar 2024 #9

madaboutharry

(41,391 posts)
1. Israel did not shoot folks lined up for food.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:56 PM
Feb 2024

That is a lie.

Of course, waiting for more information and additional facts is too inconvenient. It’s easier to believe statements from Hamas and Hamas controlled officials.

“IDF spokesman: Troops fired warning shots to disperse mob rushing aid convoy, did not carry out strikes”



“In this video, the tanks that were there to secure the convoy saw the Gazans being trampled and cautiously tried to disperse the mob with a few warning shots,” he says.

“When the hundreds became thousands and things got out of hand, the tank commander decided to retreat to avoid harm to the thousands of Gazans that were there,” Hagari says.

“You can see how cautious they were when they were backing up. They were backing up securely, risking their own lives, not shooting at the mob,” he continues.

“The Israel Defense Forces operates according to the rules of engagement and international law. No IDF strike was conducted toward the aid convoy,” Hagari says, amid claims by Hamas that 104 people were killed and hundreds more were wounded.


Other IDF sources confirmed that shots were fired at those threatening troops. That is not shooting people lined up for food.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-spokesman-troops-fired-warning-shots-to-disperse-mob-rushing-aid-convoy-did-not-carry-out-strikes/

cilla4progress

(25,984 posts)
2. Shootings at food aid in Gaza this morning.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 03:19 PM
Feb 2024

Israeli forces opened fire on members of the crowd who approached soldiers in a manner deemed threatening, and the military is reviewing the incident, according to Israeli officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

Wonder what the balance of weaponry was.
What if this were an American city?
...

Aid organizations have issued stark warnings on the scale of hunger and deprivation among Gaza’s residents, suggesting that the enclave could be on the brink of a famine. The situation is particularly bleak among the 300,000 people remaining in northern Gaza, where aid organizations withdrew months ago. Last week, U.N. officials said that the volume of aid entering the strip has collapsed as Israeli airstrikes target the police officers who guard the convoys, exposing them to looting.
A spokesperson for the White House National Security Council said the deaths were a “serious incident” and would be investigated.
We mourn the loss of innocent life and recognize the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza, where innocent Palestinians are just trying to feed their families,” the spokesperson added.

To whom does one give the benefit of doubt in the fog of war here?

LymphocyteLover

(6,987 posts)
5. from Haaretz-- "Biden Has a Vision for Israel's Future. Netanyahu Doesn't"
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 03:24 PM
Feb 2024
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-02-29/ty-article/.premium/israels-reckless-stupidity-in-ignoring-the-biden-plan-for-a-new-middle-east/0000018d-f41d-da4e-adbf-f6bdec4d0000

"It is unprecedented that a superpower crafts and offers a long-term grand strategy for a significantly smaller, asymmetrical ally, as U.S. President Joe Biden is doing with his plan for a new Middle East. The least Israel can do is give the plan the attention it deserves"

ancianita

(38,881 posts)
7. Who is going to pull that plug? Why is it "time"? Technically it's BEEN time.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 05:33 PM
Feb 2024

We have to take our cues from President Biden. He can't fight the war FOR Netanyahu, and he's stuck with Bibi's uncontrolled ground forces and unprotected humanitarian aid.
Do really you think the Biden military team hasn't thought of something we have?

At our level it does no good to flog this problem that no one has answers for.

et tu

(1,897 posts)
8. so much disinformation
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 05:34 PM
Feb 2024

and such a complex history but if bibi were a good leader,
this wouldn't be happening- i hope the israeli people decide
they need better leadership~

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