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(4,310 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:31 AM Oct 16

Netanyahu Has Been Kept in Power by the Hatred He Created

By Nehemia Shtrasler
Oct 15, 2024

How is it possible that after such a terrible year, Benjamin Netanyahu is still in power? How is it possible that after the massacre for which he is responsible, the 1,698 people murdered or killed in combat and the deep nadir to which he has brought us, not only hasn't he been kicked out of office, but he has grown even stronger thanks to Gideon Sa'ar joining his government? It looks like he'll survive as prime minister until the next scheduled election – or perhaps even longer.

He is the worst, most neglectful, most irresponsible prime minister we have had since the state was founded. His failures stem from two key traits: cowardice and procrastination. He is incapable of making decisions. He always postpones difficult decisions and waits for a miracle. Maybe something will happen and the problem will evaporate. That's how he's always been, on every issue, including the economy.

(snip)

In other words, he is the most irresponsible prime minister we have ever had. A prime minister who genuinely endangers our existence. For years, he has acted in utter defiance of Israel's defense doctrine. He hasn't created any deterrence. All his reprisal operations were just to pay lip service, and after each of them, he would boast about how he had hit, destroyed and assassinated, while Sinwar kept laughing and building his arsenal.

Nor has Netanyahu led us to a swift victory. Instead, he has dragged us into a long war of attrition, which means more deaths, more destruction and a severe blow to the economy. Moreover, Israel's defense doctrine includes the need for support from the superpowers, but Netanyahu has managed to pick fights even with the most Zionist American president ever.

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Source : Haaretz
Link : https://archive.md/ug6yi


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Netanyahu Has Been Kept in Power by the Hatred He Created (Original Post) Israeli Oct 16 OP
Hatred, fear, and loathing no_hypocrisy Oct 16 #1
Joe Biden says he's a bad fucking guy, I'll go with that Walleye Oct 16 #2
One thing bothering bdamomma Oct 16 #15
I don't know, maybe to defend against Iran. They are an adversary of ours Walleye Oct 16 #19
Yes, you could be bdamomma Oct 16 #20
I have never liked Netanyahu, and he's shown himself to be the real right wing fascist we thought he was. Walleye Oct 16 #22
hmm.... bdamomma Oct 16 #23
Jared has gotten what he has wanted since Trump became president, anything he can milk the system for Walleye Oct 16 #24
Jared's bdamomma Oct 16 #25
His father actually did time, and Trump, of course, pardoned him Walleye Oct 16 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author bdamomma Oct 16 #21
I have zero problems sabbat hunter Oct 16 #28
Netanyahu has made life more difficult for his own citizens as well as Jews around the world. Lonestarblue Oct 16 #3
Should that be "MIGA" ? nt eppur_se_muova Oct 16 #13
How is it possible? Because the Hamas leadership decided to attack Israel on October 7, rape, torture and kill JohnSJ Oct 16 #4
The warmonger has no problems making decisions to bomb the sh_t out of Gaza and now Lebanon. brush Oct 16 #5
Netanyahu bdamomma Oct 16 #16
Yep, seems like he never really cared about the hostages. brush Oct 16 #18
Sounds like our own Trump LiberalArkie Oct 16 #6
Not to mention the Talabangelicals in America who want to goad Israel into starting their end-times. Crowman2009 Oct 16 #10
The charismatics haver been wanting this since the 1960's. Pushed by the PTL & 700 Club on TV. LiberalArkie Oct 16 #12
Netanyahu is Israel's tRump KS Toronado Oct 16 #14
Stop killing each other you assholes. twodogsbarking Oct 16 #7
Whenever you hear people complain about the two party system, remember this disaster RAB910 Oct 16 #8
Netanyahu's domestic policy is garbage as well. Crowman2009 Oct 16 #9
Same-o same-o here with the orange one. Hope22 Oct 16 #11
And the hate bdamomma Oct 16 #17
It is really too much to comprehend! Hope22 Oct 16 #27

no_hypocrisy

(49,233 posts)
1. Hatred, fear, and loathing
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:43 AM
Oct 16

It seems to me that not only does Israel not trust its allies (e.g., the United States) and any Arab, Palestinian, etc., but also its citizens who aren't religious fundamentalists. Antagonism towards secular Jews for example. Netanyahu has surrounded himself with fundamentalists who will protect him from prosecution and from losing power. At the cost to the entire country.

Walleye

(36,458 posts)
2. Joe Biden says he's a bad fucking guy, I'll go with that
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:45 AM
Oct 16

Joe is a very good judge of character, he’s been very carefully walking these international diplomacy, tight ropes. But he knows Netanyahu is a bad guy. I don’t see how the population of Israel can keep supporting him, with all his strong man tactics, they still were attacked and massacred horribly.

bdamomma

(66,724 posts)
15. One thing bothering
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:41 AM
Oct 16

me, why did we send/or sending Israel a missile defense system and 100 troops? And then the probability of cutting them off for weapons, was this being considered??

Walleye

(36,458 posts)
19. I don't know, maybe to defend against Iran. They are an adversary of ours
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:54 AM
Oct 16

We probably sent the troops to make sure the weapons were being used correctly. International alliances are very complicated. And never black-and-white.

bdamomma

(66,724 posts)
20. Yes, you could be
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:15 AM
Oct 16

correct about the weapons being used correctly. Article here below. I do not trust Netanyahu. He's in the same class as Putin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/14/israel-iran-strike-nuclear-oil-military/

Walleye

(36,458 posts)
22. I have never liked Netanyahu, and he's shown himself to be the real right wing fascist we thought he was.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:48 AM
Oct 16

I’ve also been very suspicious of the fact that he is so close with Jared Kushner and Family. This would be good for Bob Woodward, or somebody to explore this relationship.

Walleye

(36,458 posts)
24. Jared has gotten what he has wanted since Trump became president, anything he can milk the system for
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:11 AM
Oct 16

Response to Walleye (Reply #19)

sabbat hunter

(6,902 posts)
28. I have zero problems
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:50 PM
Oct 16

with sending Israel defensive systems like we did. The US troops are only there to man those batteries, and train IDF personnel in using them.

Lonestarblue

(11,988 posts)
3. Netanyahu has made life more difficult for his own citizens as well as Jews around the world.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:58 AM
Oct 16

I recently spoke with a friend whose husband is from Israel and has family there. They met many years ago when she went to Israel to work on a kibbutz, as quite a few US Jewish citizens did years ago. He came to the US and they married and live here. But they are worried about family in Israel because they do not feel safe and want to leave. The family has a small business but cannot hire help because many young people are off fighting with the IDF and the Palestinians who used to come from Gaza and work in Israel every day are now dead or not allowed out of Gaza.

I think tourism to Israel has mostly stopped, and it appears that Israel will not be safe for years to come. Netanyahu’s depredations on Gaza and now his wider war on the region are causing him and Israel to lose much of the world’s approval, which cannot be good for Israel’s future. Unfortunately, the MAGA types are in control, and violence seems baked into their psyches.

JohnSJ

(96,814 posts)
4. How is it possible? Because the Hamas leadership decided to attack Israel on October 7, rape, torture and kill
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:58 AM
Oct 16

a bunch of young people at a music festival.

Netanyahu was on his way out until Hamas executed October 7.

What did they expect would happen?

brush

(58,059 posts)
5. The warmonger has no problems making decisions to bomb the sh_t out of Gaza and now Lebanon.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:18 AM
Oct 16

Israel needs to ditch him asap as it's now perceived as the big bully of the region constantly attacking neighboring countries and the Gaza enclave...with US weapons which ternishes our image more and more.

It's just a horrible reality.

Dump the warmonger. How is he still PM after the poor job he's done? He didn't strengthen the border even after being warned for months that a big attack was coming...and then took hours and hours to deploy the IDF to chase off the Oct 7 terrorists.

What, in the whole country of Israel, there's no one else who can so a better job as PM than the warmonger has?

bdamomma

(66,724 posts)
16. Netanyahu
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:45 AM
Oct 16

is Israel's tRump. Another felon trying to stay out of prison. And there's no mention of the hostages any longer.

brush

(58,059 posts)
18. Yep, seems like he never really cared about the hostages.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:52 AM
Oct 16

If he did, he sure would've made some kind of deal to get them home.

LiberalArkie

(16,663 posts)
6. Sounds like our own Trump
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:54 AM
Oct 16

Before the 2020 election, one of Netanyahu's closest aides, Natan Eshel, was secretly recorded. "Hatred," he said, "is what unites our bloc... They hate everyone... We've managed to drive them crazy with hatred."

It doesn't matter how badly Netanyahu has failed, nor does it matter how much the most despicable man in the history of the Jewish people endangers our lives. The hatred he cultivated has managed to overcome all his failures.

Crowman2009

(2,850 posts)
10. Not to mention the Talabangelicals in America who want to goad Israel into starting their end-times.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 07:20 AM
Oct 16

LiberalArkie

(16,663 posts)
12. The charismatics haver been wanting this since the 1960's. Pushed by the PTL & 700 Club on TV.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 07:36 AM
Oct 16

The ones that started it all.

Crowman2009

(2,850 posts)
9. Netanyahu's domestic policy is garbage as well.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 07:10 AM
Oct 16

To the point where income inequality is worse than our country.

Hope22

(3,116 posts)
11. Same-o same-o here with the orange one.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 07:21 AM
Oct 16

Our fighting could look like this if the right chooses to pull the pin. At this point it is renegades practicing. Hate is powerful, destructive and almost impossible to put back in the box.

bdamomma

(66,724 posts)
17. And the hate
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:51 AM
Oct 16

that they project on others is unwarranted. It's like, look at the migrants they are doing this to you, but they never look up to those who are perpetuating these lies.

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