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Related: About this forumNude Statue Honoring Mary Wollsonecraft Sparks Controversy
Arguments abound:
How many of our important male writers are depicted naked in their statues? You never see Charles Dickens with his balls out, do you? https://t.co/hL8XzcjmKp
Dr Laura Wood (@cooksferryqueen) November 10, 2020
The sculptor says: She's everywoman and clothes would have restricted her. Statues in Historic costume look like they belong to history because of their clothes."
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Botany
(72,667 posts)n/t
janterry
(4,429 posts)Creating a nude statue is not a problem.
But is this how we want to remember a writer and scholar?
And, of course, she would have hated it.
Ztolkins
(433 posts)Of Frankenstein fame.
Vindication of the Rights of Women was such an amazing work!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Link to tweet
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Hari Kunzru
@harikunzru
Dont think Maggi Hambling has really read the room with this statue. Tiny naked woman on a big wave/blob is more spirit of Soviet agricultural endeavour than feminist foremother
Mary Wollstonecraft finally honoured with statue after 200 years
theguardian.com
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janterry
(4,429 posts)it almost looks - to me - like she should be on the prow of a ship
eShirl
(18,862 posts)eShirl
(18,862 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)and yes, it does look like that
mopinko
(71,998 posts)whattheactualfuck.
not only naked, but tiny, and overwhelmed by the base.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,998 posts)Some people hate Pollock, some love him. Sometimes art sparks controversy.
janterry
(4,429 posts)n/t
Ferrets are Cool
(21,998 posts)And may have been correct. Would we even know it existed IF he had created a "normal" sculpture of her?
eShirl
(18,862 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)but I do think we should at least contemplate why a statue of a woman needs to be naked - the history of women is fraught with objectification. "Prettifying" Wollstonecraft and then depicting her naked -
it is something that would have horrified Wollstonecrafts sense of feminism. (It does mine, too)
3catwoman3
(25,695 posts)...look like they belong to history...
Does she not belong to history?
OneBro
(1,159 posts)Oh, thats Lady Godiva, I think, but why did they do that to her horse?
Maybe the horse part is sorta, you know, abstract. I think it represents how we are all being swallowed by fossil fuels.
Lady Godiva was against fossil fuels?
Way, way ahead of her time.
demmiblue
(37,872 posts)Link to tweet
sculptor over the female. So in other words, out of an intellectually muddled notion of equality, the committee chose the woman sculptor at all costs - regardless of the merits of the design - and prioritised perceived artistic edginess over any of the following: 3/
A) actual meaning/ impact of the statue for the average person
B) the promises made to the thousands of people who donated money for a statue OF Mary Wollstonecraft (not for)
C) the suitability of the statue for the setting (the shiny silver finish - ?!!!) 4/
Its actually just very sad: sad for the campaign and committee who were obviously trying to do a good thing but got this very wrong; sad for the many people - men and women - who were excited about this and have been let down; sad for those who donated and now feel cheated 5/
... And finally, sad for those of us who now have the misfortune to live in such close proximity to this mad silver thing. What is to be done? I hate the idea of tearing down a statue but cant help but feel we need to do better. Any ideas? (Ends)
One more point: for me this is a huge lesson in engaging with whats going on in the community. I knew this statue was coming, was pleased, wanted it but I was also busy and knew other people were campaigning for it. So, didnt bother getting involved. Obviously, now wish I had
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janterry
(4,429 posts)and the anatomy is really weird (close up it looks kind of masculine).
I saw somewhere that the artist wanted the statue not to be of mary wollstonecraft but FOR her. I don't know. I still hate it. I think it would be nice to have a statue OF Mary Wollstonecraft. Why can't women lionize one of our own (and not make her a 'universal' thing).
Wollstonecraft was one of a kind