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Related: About this forumTwo Arkansas men admit raping a six-year-old girl after hospital found she had STIs
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10202043/Two-Arkansas-men-plead-guilty-sex-trafficking-girl-sent-hospital-STIs.htmlApparently the mother rented a hotel room. The men were 27 and 33.
They face life in prison
She was only six
The mother no longer has custody (not sure what happened to her, I imagine she's also in prison).
Pachamama
(17,032 posts)No words
Mike Nelson
(10,374 posts)... people this evil are beyond my comprehension. Even if the mother was a drug addict and the men were pedophiles, I can't see any human doing this...
wnylib
(24,803 posts)for sex trafficking, it's likely that the mother was part of the plan, although the article doesn't say so.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Many their lives be filled with nothing but the horrors they inflicted on this poor little thing.
hlthe2b
(106,803 posts)a mother not step in to protect this child? i will never understand this at all. I'm not being hyperbolic. My protective instincts kick in immediately, as I've seen do those of most people when a defenseless animal or child is involved.
I'll never understand this. Perhaps drugs?
janterry
(4,429 posts)Which is where our culture is at, atm.
KS Toronado
(19,703 posts)just to protect their own sorry asses.
SergeStorms
(19,339 posts)They have rights to be tried by a jury of their peers, but their "rights" extend no further than that.
MAPS...."Minor Attracted People". When is this bullshit going to stop? If they want to get these people help for their unnatural and illegal attraction to children, alright.....I can agree with that. If they're trying to legitimize this sick-ass garbage? Uhhhhh, no. HELL NO!
Destigmatize pedophilia? No. Sorry. If you're a "minor attracted person" you need serious psychological help, but don't ever ask me to join your cause to legitimize pedophilia. You're liable to get a punch right in the kisser. 😡
janterry
(4,429 posts)and the theory is they can't help their attractions, so it's a way to separate the behavior from the attraction - and calling it something that they chose (this is what they prefer) will get them help.
I'm having a hard time thinking that you can't change this attraction - especially if you had some reason for arrested development in childhood, and have never acted on said 'attraction.'
I have worked with sex offenders over the years - though not explicitly on treatment (they'd appear for substance abuse issues - or something else). I don't know. I do want people to have support not harming others. But I also believe in change. (Not everyone changes, but I believe in the possibility).
smh......
wnylib
(24,803 posts)sexually abused as children. They become sexualized in their development. Very difficult to "undo" their sexual preferences even with extensive therapy. Almost impossible.
But, even though most abusers were once abused, not all abused people become abusers. Many people who were abused as children do not become abusers.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,952 posts)Often do not abuse other people as they grow up.
https://med.uth.edu/psychiatry/2019/10/18/child-sexual-abuse-and-the-myth-of-vampire-syndrome/
Its been proven abused kids sometimes dont become abusers.
I was victimized by a pedo piece of shit.
And my home was a horror show.
Year after year in school I was bullied and the teachers stood by and let it happen even in class.
Went to long term psych hospital and got hurt there too.
In a short term hospital I got raped because the staff outed me ( I am transgender)
But regardless I will defend innocent and young kids, and I adore my cat. And love all animals except fleas ,ticks and mosquitoes
I might wish harm and death to pedos and dark triad assholes.
But for little kids and animals,I am the one who refuses to be a bystander by choice.
And I still have ptsd from my past and still go to therapy and have many people inside me to manage the pain.
I swore to myself when I was a kid that I would not be like them.( Abuser trash)
And it hurts when that assumption abused kids will go on to abuse people. There are many people abused as kids who didnt go on to abuse people.
wnylib
(24,803 posts)still be a painful memory. I am sorry for what you have been through and admire and respect your strength and ability to use what you experienced as a way to relate to, care about, and defend others who have been abused.
It supports my comment that not all abused children grow up to become abusers. People who can relate to others in spite of, or because of their abuse do not harm others.
SergeStorms
(19,339 posts)That's an incredible load to bear. I'm exceedingly happy you're getting help and trying to put those horrible experiences in a place where they won't be able to hurt you any more.
Trying to compartmentalize the trauma you've suffered must be a Herculean task.
Best of luck to you, my DU amigo. We're here for you in spirit, and if you ever need an ear to listen or a shoulder to cry on. You've already shown that you're stronger than 99% of the people walking this planet.
whathehell
(29,875 posts)80 year old women are raped -- These creeps weren't necessarily "attracted" to their victim.
OneBro
(1,159 posts)Given revelations about how the church protected thousands of child-raping priests by moving them to other parishes, usually in developing nations, our culture is apparently where it has always been at.
Some humans are just evil.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,952 posts)I'd take a bullet to protect him.
Or a kid.
Some people have awful kinds of personality,sociopath.
Just because you and I could never fathom actually hurting a little girl like that.. sociopaths can and they do not care what happens to thier victims.
Sociopaths and the dark triad personality types have ice cold blood in thier veins and no moral compass.
And
I wish every pedophile on Earth was dead..
Lonestarblue
(11,983 posts)These deviants just scarred a child for life. They should never be granted parole.
usaf-vet
(7,019 posts)SergeStorms
(19,339 posts)of prisoner hierarchy. Everyone looks down on child molesters, and you're correct, they're going to be treated very harshly in any prison system. And that's as it should be.
SallyHemmings
(1,896 posts)llmart
(16,331 posts)n/t
ItsjustMe
(11,814 posts)It is possible.
https://www.wired.com/2007/05/dayintech-0514-2/
llmart
(16,331 posts)Anyone can find an exception to everything these days.
The fact is it's unlikely to happen. I'd be more concerned with her mental health going forward and her physical health with regard to the STD.
ItsjustMe
(11,814 posts)It's very unlikely to happen.
whathehell
(29,875 posts)in 1939.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)ybbor
(1,605 posts)Tragic!
I feel so sorry for that little girl.
George II
(67,782 posts)....miserable lives. They deserve it.
whathehell
(29,875 posts)No words.
getagrip_already
(17,564 posts)Although I have no idea why they would from a legal standpoint. They must have gotten some kind of plea deal or the mother could have nailed them in court in her own plea deal.
The evidence sounds largely circumstantial. At least from the article. I suppose you can match the dna equivalent of a bacteria or virus and say they are the same strain, etc, but it sounds like a long road to explain in court.
But no eye witnesses, no physical evidence (other than the std's). The mother could be torn apart in court. The science , chain of custody, and procedures used could be challenged.
But pleading guilty eliminates all doubt and ends the process cold. Good for all concerned; especially the girl.
berniesandersmittens
(11,717 posts)I also hope they rot in prison.
vercetti2021
(10,403 posts)Unmarked graves, six feet under. Nothing more fitting for rapists, pedos and traffickers