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intrepidity

(7,929 posts)
Tue May 16, 2023, 02:37 PM May 2023

Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)

https://archive.org/details/colossus-the-forbin-project-1970

The US has built an AI system with the goal of ending war. They have put the security of the country under the control of this AI called "Colossus." Colossus quickly discovers that "there's another," meaning another AI system, built by the USSR. These two agents then hook up, share all their knowledge, and develop their own new language that humans cannot understand. Now the entire world is under the control of this AI.

The rest of the film shows the attempts of man to wrest control back from Colossus.

Pretty much the only thing that looks different from today is the form-factor of the technology. I encourage everyone to view this (streams free at the Internet Archive). Aside from the overall message, it was refreshing to travel back to that era and see mid-century aesthetic (notwithstanding the blatant sexism...). The film itself barely uses any musical score, or at least I hardly noticed one--also nicely refreshing.

Go watch it and come back and let's discuss it. It could hardly be more relevent today.


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Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970) (Original Post) intrepidity May 2023 OP
I've seen it wryter2000 May 2023 #1
Check the link in the OP intrepidity May 2023 #2
I'd never heard of that site wryter2000 May 2023 #3
I've seen it a couple times ... Auggie May 2023 #4
I'd go for a Bradley Cooper intrepidity May 2023 #5
If I was writing the remake ... Auggie May 2023 #6

Auggie

(31,918 posts)
4. I've seen it a couple times ...
Wed May 17, 2023, 06:49 AM
May 2023

years ago.

Outstanding, and ready for a remake now.

My first choices for Forbin would be Bradley Cooper or Kate Blanchett. Both have awesome range. If you wanted a little younger, Eddie Redmayne or Emma Stone. No reason Forbin can't be played by a woman.

intrepidity

(7,929 posts)
5. I'd go for a Bradley Cooper
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:55 AM
May 2023

I was surprised that I only recognized a small handful of the actors in this film, like four at most.

The mistake they made in that film was putting the unvetted AI in charge of the nukes right out of the gate. I ?hope? we won't quite make that error IRL.

Auggie

(31,918 posts)
6. If I was writing the remake ...
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:17 AM
May 2023

I'd have a foreign country making the mistake, stemming from something like poor coding and/or myopic safeguards allowing A.I. to take over their defenses and then those of the U.S. and Russia. Sounds more realistic to me.

Oh-oh. Just found this on Wikipedia:

Remake

Imagine Entertainment and Universal Studios confirmed that a remake titled Colossus, to be directed by Ron Howard, would be in production as of April 2007. Officials were quoted as saying: "Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 science fiction saga Colossus: The Forbin Project as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, reports Variety. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for a movie to be called Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies like Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient and then takes control."

In October 2010, the project moved forward with the announcement that Will Smith would star in the lead role, with the script being written by James Rothenberg. "Will Smith is set to collaborate with director Ron Howard on the forthcoming sci-fi feature The Forbin Project. But now it looks like the project might be back on track as Variety’s reporting that Universal has hired writer Blake Masters (Law & Order: LA) to do a new draft of the script. There’s no word if Ron Howard is still on the project, but it’s possible since it will be produced by Howard’s business partner Brian Grazer".

Variety also reported in July 2011 that Universal replaced Rothenberg with Blake Masters to do a new draft of the script. In March 2013, it was announced that Ed Solomon, screenwriter of Men in Black and Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure had been brought on board to rewrite the film's script. "After struggling in developmental limbo since 2007, Colossus – the remake of the 1970s science fiction thriller 'Colossus: The Forbin Project' starring Will Smith – has been given a much-needed boost. Ed Solomon ... has been brought on board to rewrite the film’s script and breathe new life into the project". No further details emerged regarding the remake.

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Please, NOT WILL SMITH. He. Can't. Act. The team of Ron Howard/Brian Grazer is totally wrong too. As is Ed Solomon.



A.I. taking over is too real and too terrifying and needs to scare the crap out of everybody. A.I. in fascist form. That type of thinking.

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