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appalachiablue

(43,113 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:12 PM Dec 2020

German 88 Flak Guns Used By Nazis In WWII, Color Action Scenes

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- Nazi Germany WWII propaganda film of 88 guns fired in Europe, Russia and North Africa during World War II. The sound track is added and the audio of the firings is repeated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.8_cm_Flak_18/36/37/41
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The 2nd and 3rd generations of Nazi despisers in the family are holding.

My dad's 7th Army unit was attacked by 88s in late winter 1945 en route from France to Germany in the Rhineland Campaign.

When his CO went down, dad, age 24 and an artillery lieutenant took over. He survived to receive the bronze star and his group continued to cross the Rhine into Germany at Worms in early March. They fought on and assisted the liberation of Dachau near Munich.

My father stayed on in the Army of Occupation and received care for battle fatigue.

He returned home safe thank God or I wouldn't be writing this note.

Fascism's resurgence and clear threat to democracy in the months and years ahead will require mass effort and resistance.

Time to get to work.
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German 88 Flak Guns Used By Nazis In WWII, Color Action Scenes (Original Post) appalachiablue Dec 2020 OP
My dad was a 7th Army artillery officer, too. DemoTex Dec 2020 #1
Great record and that's a fine photo. Where did your dad train appalachiablue Dec 2020 #4
He was Auburn ROTC .. DemoTex Dec 2020 #11
Another great photo, a well deserved good time in Rome. In college appalachiablue Dec 2020 #16
yeah, the 88's were universally feared..... getagrip_already Dec 2020 #2
I can't blame them after researching these monster guns a bit. appalachiablue Dec 2020 #7
as a rule, returning vets who saw action never spoke much about it.... getagrip_already Dec 2020 #9
That's the consensus I know, not talk about it and sadly appalachiablue Dec 2020 #13
So your Dads, like mine SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #3
Absolutely. And Gen. Eisenhower was The Antifa! appalachiablue Dec 2020 #6
Willy and Joe didn't like 'em ThoughtCriminal Dec 2020 #5
Good cartoon, thanks. appalachiablue Dec 2020 #8
My dad talked about the 88's he encountered in the war too. marked50 Dec 2020 #10
That was a seriously dangerous winter esp. Market Garden and appalachiablue Dec 2020 #14
My dad was 5th Armored. Wounded in Hurtgen Forest where they used 88s. Sneederbunk Dec 2020 #12
Hurtgen Forest was horrible, what a winter. Glad your dad appalachiablue Dec 2020 #15

DemoTex

(25,713 posts)
1. My dad was a 7th Army artillery officer, too.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:31 PM
Dec 2020

N. Africa, Sicily, Italy (WIA - recovered), France and Germany. Here is a photo of LT GEN George Patton that my dad, then a 1st LT, took somewhere in Italy. Lots of stars in that staff jeep!

appalachiablue

(43,113 posts)
4. Great record and that's a fine photo. Where did your dad train
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:42 PM
Dec 2020

in the states? When did he ship over and back?

My dad went to OCS training with mom in the Wilmington, NC area and El Paso, Texas.

He departed NY in Dec. 1944, trained in Bournemouth, England and then shipped over to Omaha Beach in Normandy, Dec. 1945.

So glad he made it thru, although there were some damages. When he returned mom was surprised to see him with long hair almost to his shoulders and wearing a shortened Eisenhower- syle coat.

DemoTex

(25,713 posts)
11. He was Auburn ROTC ..
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 08:19 PM
Dec 2020

Then Ft. Sill. Landed in North Africa in 1942. Wounded in Italy, and patched up by the battalion surgeon.


My dad (L) has a brew in Rome with the battalion surgeon (R) that saved his life in southern Italy.

appalachiablue

(43,113 posts)
16. Another great photo, a well deserved good time in Rome. In college
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 08:41 PM
Dec 2020

I stopped by Auburn once to see friends on a drive during spring break from WVU to So Fla.

Nice campus; I was looking for Mell Hall, and people kept telling me to find Male/Mail Hall. Eventually I got it. Lol.

getagrip_already

(17,566 posts)
2. yeah, the 88's were universally feared.....
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:39 PM
Dec 2020

My uncle was on a tank crew in patton's division, and he said that was what they never wanted to hear the sound of,

He somehow managed to get busted in rank multiple times and ended up in convoy duty after his tank was scrapped for some reason. Never did get the real story, but I was just a young lad, I'm sure it was more than he let on.

appalachiablue

(43,113 posts)
7. I can't blame them after researching these monster guns a bit.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:48 PM
Dec 2020

My dad had battle fatigue, did some recovery time in Marseille, the Alps.

He stayed over in the Army of Occupation and didn't return home until 1946. Mom was patiently waiting and understandably concerned.

Like your uncle, there's probably much more to the stories of many of the troops, my father included. It was Hell.

getagrip_already

(17,566 posts)
9. as a rule, returning vets who saw action never spoke much about it....
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 08:00 PM
Dec 2020

They just didn't feel the need, and it likely brought back memories they would rather not visit ever again.

I may have heard a few unguarded thoughts because I was a young child and asked innocent questions with simple answers.

But he never got over his trauma, whatever it was. He was still my favorite uncle.

appalachiablue

(43,113 posts)
13. That's the consensus I know, not talk about it and sadly
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 08:20 PM
Dec 2020

I never asked, not even in college when I returned from Europe one time and Dad gave me some of his insignia, pins and ribbons. Most of what I know is recounted from an older sibling and derived my own research.

marked50

(1,449 posts)
10. My dad talked about the 88's he encountered in the war too.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 08:07 PM
Dec 2020

He was in the 69th Division that arrived in European theater in Jan of '45. This was the division that eventually met up with the Russian's on The Elbe river. He was with an Armour group of 105mm howitzers.

One of the things he remembered and commented on was that one of the biggest concerns about moving along the roads to Germany was when that things seemed to go pretty unopposed until the convoy rounded some turn. The 88's were set up, just a few, to lay waste to whatever was in their sites. They were manned by the SS and they were suicidaly committed. He said it usually didn't last long as they were ultimately outgunned and out-manned. He also stayed on with the Occupation Force in 45.

It was the only thing he expressed concern about the entire race to Germany endeavor.

He always said though, he never thought he was a hero.

appalachiablue

(43,113 posts)
14. That was a seriously dangerous winter esp. Market Garden and
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 08:27 PM
Dec 2020

the Bulge. Yes, I've read how the Germans brought out 88s to station around to hit the advancing Allies.

SS and fanatics, say no more. My dad never talked about the war, he gave me some insignia and ribbons when I came back from summer college study in England. I didn't ask him about it but wish I had; he too would have never regarded himself as a 'war hero.'

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