When Gun Advocates talk about Defensive Gun Use and support for Concealed Carry, please remember...

[stone space]

...that Zimmerman's murder of Trayvon Martin counts as a Defensive Gun Use in their statistics, and that they consider ME as a supporter of Concealed Carry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172187559#post79

[rjsquirrel]

1. Please remember

last night's killings in Kalamazoo.

CCWs all over the place in Michigan, yet a middle aged white guy with a likely legal gun goes off his viagra and kills 7 innocent people in three locations before the cops -- yeah the cops, not some hero with a pocket cannon -- finally stopped him.

Funny when I saw his mugshot he looked like most of the gun nutters I have ever met. White, overweight, insecure, and inadequate ... and very, very angry.

[GGJohn]

3. ...

Funny when I saw his mugshot he looked like most of the gun nutters I have ever met. White, overweight, insecure, and inadequate ... and very, very angry.

Yeah, sure dude, like we totally believe you.

[Eleanors38]

24. White folks so boring they ain't worth a creative stereotype.

[GGJohn]

25. Apparently so.

[TeddyR]

11. Man

You know ALL the facts about this shooting before they are even disclosed. You should offer your services to the police. And CCW "all over the place" - you even know who is carrying concealed!

[Nuclear Unicorn]

35. So because a CCer didn't intervene that invalidates CC? Apparently no cops intervened so

according to your rules where does that leave law enforcement?

[GGJohn]

2. It's always all about you, isn't it "professor". eom.

BTW, in the eyes of the law, Zimmerman isn't a murderer, he was acquitted, remember?

[stone space]

4. Yes, meaning that the murder counts as a DGU in gunner statistics.

BTW, in the eyes of the law, Zimmerman isn't a murderer, he was acquitted, remember?

2. It's always all about you, isn't it "professor". eom.

I was cited as a supporter of Concealed Carry here in this forum, was I not?

This calls into question claims of support for their positions made by gunner types.

[GGJohn]

5. You keep calling it a murder,

but in the eyes of the law, it wasn't.

[stone space]

7. I understand. You no doubt call it a Defensive Gun Use. We disagree.

You keep calling it a murder,

but in the eyes of the law, it wasn't.

[GGJohn]

10. You, no doubt, have no idea what I call it. eom.

[Duckhunter935]

6. I guess it does

Since the court and a jury legally found it to be a defensive gun use. I tend to agree with our legal system. Welcome back from your latest vacation.

[stone space]

9. You may call Zimmerman's murder of Trayvon a Defensive Gun Use, but others disagree.

Since the court and a jury legally found it to be a defensive gun use. I tend to agree with our legal system.

And for folks who disagree, calling the murder a Defensive Gun Use is more of a reflection on your own credibility than it is a reflection of reality.

[TeddyR]

12. Insisting over and over

That a guy who was acquitted is guilty of murder makes me question your grasp of reality. And that incident really has nothing to do with the 2d Amendment but instead turn on whether Florida's stand your ground law is a good law.

[stone space]

13. Zimmerman's murder of Trayvon is every bit as much of a Defensive Gun Use as...

...I am a supporter of Concealed Carry.

One needs to read gunner claims with a critical eye.

They often run counter to reality.

[TeddyR]

14. Thanks for making my point for me

[gejohnston]

16. had nothing to do with SYG either

since according to a couple of eye witnesses and forensics, there wasn't an ability to retreat.

[Duckhunter935]

15. was he found guilty of murder?

Words matter professor

[gejohnston]

17. if some guy is getting his

head bounced off the sidewalk by someone who is larger and stronger than him, What should he do?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

18. He won't be answering for several weeks n/t

[DonP]

19. Quelle Surprise!!!

[GGJohn]

20. Again?

Well, who didn't see that coming?

[DonP]

21. Who had under 7 days in the pool?

Gotta see if he ressurects himself on Discussionist.

IIRC, he was trying to play over there and kept getting suspended.

[GGJohn]

22. I had 4 days, guess I was wrong. eom.

[DonP]

23. I actually thought he might last a little longer this time

After that blast of 4 hides in just a few days over his "family album" pix, I thought he might try and temper things a bit and try to stay afloat.

But he came back as angry and ignorant as ever.

He's literally a caricature of a gun grabber and with his elaborate stories about himself as a "hero", I think he's likely a sock puppet of one of our banned folk.

[Duckhunter935]

28. again?

That was quick

[Duckhunter935]

29. april?

[Hangingon]

30. He seems a little more shrill with each return. nt

[Duckhunter935]

32. yep, he deserved that hide

[DonP]

31. Yup, his set of hidden "family album" picture posts were all in a group just a couple weeks ago

[ileus]

8. Better safe than sorry...as for me and my family we'll continue to progressively carry.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

26. Oh and as for your griping in GD, Einstein has two great quotes you:

First:

"Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom."

Freedom would include the first amendment where I can quote from both someone you may respect, like Einstein, as well as some sources you don't. And, while I applaud your interest and your ability to choose to disagree, I'll pass on another quote from one of the greatest minds the world has ever known.









Second, have a raspberry:

[beevul]

27. Likewise, when anti-gun advocates talk about victims of gun violence, please remember...

Likewise, when anti-gun advocates talk about victims of gun violence, please remember, that bloombergs groups counted the boston bombers as victims of gun violence, and none of the usual anti-gun mouthpieces so much as batted an eye.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

33. Are you suggesting that because of Zimmerman others have no right to defend themselves?

Because if you are suggesting that it would be monumentally dumb.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

34. See the notes upthread

You'll be waiting a bit for answer.

[Duckhunter935]

36. he might be able to

answer in a couple of months. He is vacationing again

[Puha Ekapi]

37. Dang...

...missed all the fun. Best show in town

[DonP]

38. Naw, he's still performing over in the gun forum on Discussionist

At least until they ban him again too.

As ignorant and angry as ever.