Joey Gallo- Poster boy of bad statistics

[Casady1]

Joey Gallo is hailed as the "outcome hitter. Let's look at his stats .199 average and over 100 walks. 38 HR's and 77 RBI's and 213 SO.

To me power hitters are supposed to drive in runs.

Walks don't drive in runs. He had 2 sac flies all year and he only had 77 RBI's. To me that is pathetic. League leading SO's. This is ruining baseball.

How do you drive in runs with a .160 average with RISP?

[True Dough]

1. I don't think you're being fair!

He was a .199 hitter in 2021, but he's a career .206 hitter!



Seriously though, his OPS was .808 this season and .821 for his career. He's no Mike Trout in the outfield (although Gallo can also play infield), but he's serviceable defensively.

He's closing in on 28 years of age. There will be teams interested in his services, even though he may serve in a limited role.

[Casady1]

2. I think in the old days

.199 and 213 SO would have you back in the minors.

[True Dough]

3. You could very well be right about that

But this isn't the old days.

[Casady1]

4. This will make you laugh

My friend played baseball at Yale. He knew the Giamatti's well. He is in a group of people discussing players. People are arguing that Gallo is better than Rod Carew. My friend played with Jeff bagwell. He just shakes his head in disgust.

[True Dough]

5. Anyone attempting to compare Gallo to Carew

just shouldn't talk about baseball at all. EVER! Those people are making fools of themselves.

[Casady1]

7. Have you watched the 30 for 30

about the "86 Mets. It is really great. That team was loaded and when you watch the rally in the bottom of the ninth of the sixth game all three of the hitters swung for contact and singled. Also, most think Mookie was going to beat out that grounder. He was one of the fastest players in the majors and Buckner knew how fast Mookie was. Stanley was late going to the base. Speculation says the Buckner took his eye off the ball. Hernandez says that anyone else was running and Buckner fields that play. It is one of the best 30 for 30"s ever.

[True Dough]

9. I've seen several 30 for 30s, but not that one

Will have to make a point of watching it. Thanks!

[ProfessorGAC]

17. Agreed!

I watched it & it was really good!
And, as a Cubs fan, I'm genetic predisposed to hate the Mets. (It's a 1969 thing.).

[Casady1]

19. My wife is from Chicago

and like you she hates the Mets. However their run in'69 was incredible. They won 35 of their last 40 games. I remember Seaver almost pitching a perfect game against you. They went into Baltimore and kicked their asses as well.

That 10th inning in the sixth game was the greatest comeback ever. It really shows what is missing in baseball today. Mookie probably beats that out and his speed forced the action. I miss that speed.

[ProfessorGAC]

20. You're Right

The Cubs petered out as the Mets got hotter than the sun.
IIRC, the Mets only need to have played .650 ball to surpass the Cubs over that last 6 weeks because the Cubs were under .500 during that interval.
Actually, the Mets ran away with it. Cubs finished 2nd by 8 games.

[Casady1]

21. Leo fried

their pitching and the Met's had great pitching.

[ProfessorGAC]

22. Nolan Freaking Ryan Was Their FOURTH Starter!

Yeah, he was wild back then, but a hall of famer & the all-time strikeout leader was their 4th starter.
Quite the staff.

[Casady1]

23. Seaver was a better pitcher

in every way. Much more consistent. I saw a game in '68 against the Giants. The Giants loaded the bases and Koosman struck out Mays. McCovey and got Jim ray Hart to pop out.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. At That Time, Definitely

Fun fact about Ryan.
Only guy in baseball history to lead the league in ERA & BAA and have a losing record.
And, it happened to him twice!
Couldn't hit him, couldn't score on him, but he got such pathetic support that he won less than he lost!

[Casady1]

25. Ryan had an incredibly

long career. He was still throwing smoke at 45. Seaver had a much career overall.

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6. Is this the guy who went on a consecutive game homer streak...

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during the year? After all of that I had no idea his batting average was BELOW .200 and he had that many strike outs.

Better than Rod Carew? Crazy. Carew and Tony Gwynn were the last hitters with a chance to hit .400. That's very rare and hitters like that don't come around often...hardly at all.

WTH? He either strikes out or hits a homer. And he strikes out way more than hits.

What has baseball become.

[orwell]

10. Best hitter I've ever seen...

...Barry Bonds.

Only hitter I've can remember being intentionally walked with the bases loaded.

That guy could rake...

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11. Has to be an asterik next to his name because of the PEDs.

Too bad because he didn't need them. He as already a superstar.

I can't agree. We'll never know what he could do without the PEDs.

[orwell]

15. We actually do know...

...he wasn't on PED's for most of his career. He was still an MVP.

Has won unprecedented 7 National League Most Valuable Player Awards (1990, '92, '93, 2001, '02, '03 and '04)

BTW - Nobody has accused him of being on PED's in the early years.

Plus, many of the pitchers he faced were on PED's as well.

Baseball was drugged up for many years. I just consider it the "juice" era.

You do know that players in the "old days" used to use amphetamines.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Amphetamines

Baseball's sudden "purity" is amusing.

Bonds was a complete asshole, but he was the greatest hitter of all time.

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16. He wasn't on PEDs during his Pirate days, which is why I said...

he didn't need them. When McGuire and Sosa and all the rest started hitting homers like crazy from PEDs and getting all the headlines and attention, he unfortunately turned to them.

And btw, we don't know what he would've done in his SF years because he turned to PEDs. Too bad.

And the greenies players used in old days weren't PEDs. They were nothing but speed which keeps you going for longer duration but doesn't add muscle and bat speed. Nowhere near the same as PEDs.

[Casady1]

13. George Brett

got close.

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14. You're right. I forgot about Brett.

[ProfessorGAC]

18. George Brett, Too

He hit .390 in 1980. He needed to hit .420 the last 6 games to be .400, but didn't do it.
He had over 3k hits, & 317 career HR. And, he only struck out a bit over 900 times in 21 years. Under 44 per year while walking more than 50 times each season.
I agree on Carew & Gwynn, but I think Brett belongs in their company.

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26. You're absolutely right. He gets forgotten sometimes when...

discussing high average hitters.

[Sibelius Fan]

8. I heard on a sports show that Gallo has had only two sac flies his entire career.

This Yankee fan is think that maybe getting Gallo midseason didn’t work out so well.

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12. Disappointing in performance