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dionysus

(26,467 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 07:47 PM Dec 2011

Fallout 3 is like having a crack cocaine addiction. i just thought i'd mention that.

i know it's an old game but it's new to me. and then i realized i bought the game of the year edition, which has all 5 expansion packs.

it's really too fun to put down. DU... or Fallout 3... DU... or Fallout 3... goes through my mind...

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Fallout 3 is like having a crack cocaine addiction. i just thought i'd mention that. (Original Post) dionysus Dec 2011 OP
Fallout 3 is awesome. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #1
you're right.. i started by trying to keep em sort of even, until i realized i should have been dionysus Dec 2011 #2
Here is a tip for tons of flamers, fuel, and Big Guns Skill books... ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #3
no kidding. i'm going to try this , thanks... dionysus Dec 2011 #4
About the stats... LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #6
i blew a perk on Dogmeat just so I could have him respawn if he dies... dionysus Dec 2011 #8
I stopped taking Dogmeat with me... LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #9
thanks! dionysus Dec 2011 #10
No, I didn't trade much with Casdin LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #13
i did stuff so out of order, but the time i even found fort independance, i had every type of power dionysus Dec 2011 #14
I'm a hoarder as well... LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #16
lol, the upstairs desk is armor, the filing cabinet next to it is weapons.. downstairs lockers, one dionysus Dec 2011 #17
My setup is similar LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #19
so you have a home workbench? is a deathclaw gauntlet a deathclaw hand + power fist? dionysus Dec 2011 #21
Yes, I have the workbench, even if I don't do much crafting LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #24
i used to build stuff, but it got boring... the railway rifle was okay, the rock-it-launcher stank, dionysus Dec 2011 #25
Dart Gun Hayabusa Dec 2011 #26
how do you make the poison darts? i have radscorpion glands galore... dionysus Dec 2011 #27
It' built into the dartgun LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #28
musta been drunk when i built that, i forgot all about the poison! dionysus Dec 2011 #33
There are darts Hayabusa Dec 2011 #32
I highly recommend the Deathclaw gauntlet LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #29
the rock-it-launcher runs on non health\weapon objects. you can put any 7 pieces of junk dionysus Dec 2011 #31
The Railway gun can pin enemies to walls or the floor. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #47
Love me some Deathclaw Gauntlet! LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #48
*Boots up Fallout 3 Hayabusa Dec 2011 #5
I just finished a playthrough LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #7
off topic... ANY word on half life 2 episode 3? it's been YEARS... dionysus Dec 2011 #11
I'm with you on that one! LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #12
Besides the occasional Valve employee wearing a t-shirt like this recently? Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2011 #15
those bastards dionysus Dec 2011 #18
Why must they taunt us so??? LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #20
Make sure you check out the Mods for it. Riftaxe Dec 2011 #22
in the mid 90s i had a program that allowed you to crack into the graphics\audio files for doom2. dionysus Dec 2011 #23
I had an Army of Darkness mod LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2011 #30
i had it to the point where i sampled audio from songs, when the demons saw snoop, it'd say dionysus Dec 2011 #35
I know the feeling. Angleae Dec 2011 #34
yeah, and New Vegas beckons afterwards. i'm doomed dionysus Dec 2011 #36
I was disappointed by NV (and Obsidian in general) Angleae Dec 2011 #37
oh dear dionysus Dec 2011 #38
I like NV more than F3. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #41
I agree the engine has it's advantages such as DT vs DR. Ammo types. More perk options. etc. Angleae Dec 2011 #46
A long time ago, far, far away.. Stuart G Dec 2011 #39
yup! dionysus Dec 2011 #40
I think the most powerful skills in both F3 and NV ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #42
medicine, energy weapons, lockpick for me dionysus Dec 2011 #43
Energy weapons are good, ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #44
yea, first harkness's plasma rifle was good in earlier stages.. now i have vengeance and it rips dionysus Dec 2011 #45

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
1. Fallout 3 is awesome.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:03 PM
Dec 2011

Charisma is a worthless stat, and Perception is not much better. I like to set those to 1 so I can beef up the other stats.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
2. you're right.. i started by trying to keep em sort of even, until i realized i should have been
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:19 PM
Dec 2011

putting more into strength and endurance.

but i just found a unique gatling laser called Vengeance, so i'm good to go. and i use fawkes as a fighting storage cabinet as well.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
3. Here is a tip for tons of flamers, fuel, and Big Guns Skill books...
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:31 PM
Dec 2011

1) Find Bethesda buildings East and West. They are right next to each other. They will be surrounded by raiders, several of which may have sniper rifles. There is also the occasional Giant Rad Scorpion, so watch out.

2) Save!

3) Go in the buildings and kill everyone. Several Raiders have flamers, and one also has a Big Guns Skill Book. There is a safe with the Lock Pick Bobble Head too. There are also some combat shotguns set as a trap, and some grenades, also set as a trap.

4) Wait, or sleep, for 3 1/2 days, and then repeat. All of the Raiders will be back, and the one with the skill book will have another copy for you. You can raise your Big Guns Skill to 100 using this method.

If you raise the difficulty, you will get more xp as well, but those buildings are packed with heavy Raiders, so be really careful.

6. About the stats...
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:45 AM
Dec 2011

I'm going to preface this with a general spoiler alert, not for plot points, but for strategy/perks, so read on at your own peril:

Since you have the Game of The Year edition, which includes the Broken Steel expansion that raises the level cap to 30 (instead of the original 20), you might want to keep the following in mind:

- When you reach level 30 you can choose the "Almost Perfect" perk, which raises all your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats to 9, so it won't really matter anymore how your original character was "built". Additionally if you hold off on collecting the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. bobbleheads until after you have the "Almost Perfect" perk, you can then raise all your stats to level 10.

I think (but I'm not 100% sure this is how it works) that once you have all S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats at level 10, all your skills get automatically raised to 100 (even though once you reach level 30 you're going to be pretty close already).

Hope this helps.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
8. i blew a perk on Dogmeat just so I could have him respawn if he dies...
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 09:43 AM
Dec 2011

so far i'm on level 24, i have one last mission to go in the main quest, and i've beat Anchorage and Point lookout. I've got Pitt, Broken Steel, and the Mothership expansions left.

should i beat the main quest before finishing the rest of the expansions?

right now i'm just scouring the map with fawks, finding all the locations on the map and collecting items/geomapper loactions...

9. I stopped taking Dogmeat with me...
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:31 AM
Dec 2011

I just leave her at the house in Megaton, so I don't have to worry (started doing that when Dogmeat kept dying on me on my first playthrough, since I believe the Puppies! perk was added later with Broken Steel).

If you want to level up quickly, the best way to do it is to get yourself in as many fights as possible. As I was approaching level 30, I went through the Bethesda Ruins (as another poster pointed out) every 72 hours (that's how long it takes for enemies to respawn, IIRC), the military camp south of the Regulator HQ, etc. Once I got to level 30 I started avoiding fights, especially once I got the Chinese Stealth Armor from Op. Anchorage.

The order in which you do the missions is up to you, except for the Broken Steel missions, which you will only be able to access after you beat the main Fallout 3 storyline.

As I mentioned in another post, in this playthrough I followed a guide, because I wanted to make sure that I saw as much as possible of the game (and there were quite a few things I had missed in my previous playthroughs).

In case anyone is interested: the guide I followed was the one by Haeravon on gamefaqs.com. I recommend it because it's very comprehensive.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
10. thanks!
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:38 AM
Dec 2011

dogmeat is good going up against raiders, but dogmeat vs. enclave soldier or dogmeat vs. mister gutsy = dead dogmeat.

do you know how many tech items you have to give to casdin at fort independance beforehe lets you into the building? i hearthere's alien blaster cells in there...

13. No, I didn't trade much with Casdin
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:19 PM
Dec 2011

When I first came across the Outcasts, the Enclave (with all their high tech loot) hadn't started attacking me yet, so I brought him some conductors. But once I saw that I only got bullets in return (which I had plenty of) I lost interest. But now with the Enclave after you, you should have plenty of excess tech items to give him. Actually I might go back and do it myself as well, since I've never seen Fort Independence from the inside.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
14. i did stuff so out of order, but the time i even found fort independance, i had every type of power
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:33 PM
Dec 2011

armor imaginable. however, i refuse to give away suits of power armor for two stimpaks. it's bad enough coughing up a laser pistol for a stimpak.

(ok, resident evil 4 turned me into a huge cash\ammo hoarder )

16. I'm a hoarder as well...
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:44 PM
Dec 2011

I've got some of the lockers of the Megaton home filled with all kinds of guns/armor/food etc. that I never used. I also tend not to spend money and just build my inventory by looting, so I also have a ton of bottlecaps.

Overall if you only get a couple of stimpacks for a power armor it's a total ripoff. Besides the fact that I have more than 300 stimpacks in my inventory.

You can also simply try to pickpocket him for the key to fort Independence. Or just go in guns blazing...

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
17. lol, the upstairs desk is armor, the filing cabinet next to it is weapons.. downstairs lockers, one
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:55 PM
Dec 2011

for sellable stuff, one for food\health & stealth boys.

plus love shack theme or house. if i ever get desperate, i'll pawn off all the booze

19. My setup is similar
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 04:23 AM
Dec 2011

Downstairs locker by the front door for sellable stuff and books (once all my skills hit 100 I started collecting).
Locker opposite is for weapons.
Fridge for food.
Upstairs desk for crafting materials. (even though the only thing I ever really craft is Deathclaw gauntlets)
And the filing cabinet for clothes/armor.

I went with the Vault theme this time, after always choosing the love shack theme before.
Most of the stuff I hoarded I'll never use, but it's just comforting to know it's there.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
21. so you have a home workbench? is a deathclaw gauntlet a deathclaw hand + power fist?
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 09:02 PM
Dec 2011

do you need a schematic?

24. Yes, I have the workbench, even if I don't do much crafting
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 09:20 AM
Dec 2011

The Deathclaw gauntlet requires schematics, which you can find in a few places around the Wasteland, the simplest is in the F. Scott Key Trail & Campground (SW corner) in a trailer.

To build it you need a Deathclaw hand, medical brace, leather belt and some wonderglue. It's a great weapon, especially if you have good unarmed skill. I usually used it for sneak kills on enemies, and I got one hit kills nearly every time except for the really strong enemies like feral ghoul reavers, super mutant overlords etc. For those however I more often than not managed to land a paralyzing punch, and was then able to finish them off while they were stunned.

Another great thing about the Deathclaw gauntlet is that it ignores armor, so no matter what the enemy is wearing you get the same effect.

You can read up on it here:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Deathclaw_gauntlet_%28Fallout_3%29

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
25. i used to build stuff, but it got boring... the railway rifle was okay, the rock-it-launcher stank,
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 10:39 AM
Dec 2011

and i don't get much use out of the dart gun. however, deathclaw gauntlet sounds cool...

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
26. Dart Gun
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 01:13 PM
Dec 2011

Is actually pretty good for a run-and-gunner, as the scorpion poison cripples the legs. I frequently used it on one playthrough just to give me some time to think while facing a tough Super Mutant.

28. It' built into the dartgun
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 02:09 PM
Dec 2011

One of the "ingredients" of the dartgun is the poison gland, so it makes the darts you shoot poisonous automatically.

I actually built one but I never used it. Now I'm intrigued...

Here's some info (what I said above was from memory, there might be mistakes, but I can't read the wiki on my phone)
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dart_gun

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
32. There are darts
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 09:56 PM
Dec 2011

scattered all around the Capital Wasteland, and I think that there are some for sale at various traders throughout the region.

29. I highly recommend the Deathclaw gauntlet
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 02:16 PM
Dec 2011

I think it's the best non ranged weapon. Especially since it ignores armor.

The railway rifle feels underpowered to me. Considering it shoots railway spikes it doesn't seem to do much damage. And I never figured out how to work the rock-it launcher...

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
31. the rock-it-launcher runs on non health\weapon objects. you can put any 7 pieces of junk
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 04:19 PM
Dec 2011

in it. the heavier the item, the more damage is caused. problem is, in order to cause enough damage, you have to carry way too much weight in junk... you could load it with 7 ashtrays or tin cans, and not inflict damage, or you could load it with chunks of iron...

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
47. The Railway gun can pin enemies to walls or the floor.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:01 PM
Dec 2011

The Deathclaw Gauntlet probably does the second most functional damage if your Unarmed skill is high, and you have Unarmed Perks.

The Fatboy is the most powerful.

48. Love me some Deathclaw Gauntlet!
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 02:13 PM
Dec 2011

My character was built around stealth and unarmed skills, so I got lots of one hit kills. One moment a raider is standing there minding their own business, next moment they're a Jackson Pollock all over the floor. Very satisfying.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
5. *Boots up Fallout 3
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:26 PM
Dec 2011

and my vision gets red, blue and some hints of green. I think I just became addicted to it.

7. I just finished a playthrough
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:54 AM
Dec 2011

of the Game of The Year edition. It took me about four months.

Since I had already played Fallout 3 (but only the vanilla release), I didn't even do much blind exploring. I used a guide from gamefaqs to structure my playthrough and to make sure I didn't miss anything this time around. And it still took me four months!

Boy, did I ever get my money's worth out of that Steam sale!

And now on to New Vegas!

12. I'm with you on that one!
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:08 PM
Dec 2011

I haven't seen any news about Ep.3. I try to check out PCGamer.com about once a day, and every time they do an article about Valve, the comments are full of requests, nay, demands for Episode 3. It would be nice to at least get them to acknowledge they're working on Ep.3 or Half-Life 3 (when the Episodic development cycle takes as long as that for a full game, they might as well drop it).

We can only hope that 2012 is the year...

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
22. Make sure you check out the Mods for it.
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 01:56 AM
Dec 2011

fallout 3 is a game that has an active mod community expanding and customizing the game endlessly it seems

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/top/alltime.php

I

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
23. in the mid 90s i had a program that allowed you to crack into the graphics\audio files for doom2.
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 09:01 AM
Dec 2011

i started replacing the graphics with my own hand drawn ones. my goal was Snoom; a Doom 2 where the main character was... Snoop Dogg. i never finished it... it was too time consuming. each sprite had like 16 different versions i had to draw. but i had the graphics forthe knife, pistol, machine guns, and audio finished. i wish i still had those files.

30. I had an Army of Darkness mod
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 02:19 PM
Dec 2011

Everytime I picked up a shotgun or shotgun ammo it said "this is my boomstick!" Somehow that never got old...

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
35. i had it to the point where i sampled audio from songs, when the demons saw snoop, it'd say
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 08:45 PM
Dec 2011

"it's snoop dogg! get that muthafuckah!"

Angleae

(4,658 posts)
34. I know the feeling.
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 11:44 PM
Dec 2011

I started my 34th(?) playthrough a couple days ago. Of course it's much better with mods installed as Riftaxe mentioned (unless you're playing on XBOX/PS3).

Angleae

(4,658 posts)
37. I was disappointed by NV (and Obsidian in general)
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 04:46 AM
Dec 2011

It had the wrong feel to it. Fallout to me is small towns trying to make it by. FNV had only 2 such towns. The whole game was from the beginning between three major power blocs. The fact that Obsidian kept changing the formids in the main file made modding difficult. I've shelved it probably not to be back to.

Edit: They also added "modern" weapons to the game, probably in order to get COD players to buy it. Yet more things that look and feel out of place.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
41. I like NV more than F3.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 03:52 PM
Dec 2011

Fallout 3 allowed the characters to become gods fairly quickly. I have to turn the difficulty up all the way when I play F3, but not when I play NV.

Oblivion was even worse in this regard. You can become so godly that all the monsters become almost pointless.

Angleae

(4,658 posts)
46. I agree the engine has it's advantages such as DT vs DR. Ammo types. More perk options. etc.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 10:05 PM
Dec 2011

But the storyline and background just simply suck.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
39. A long time ago, far, far away..
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 09:14 AM
Dec 2011

I got addicted to Superindendo's ..(yea, l990s version..of

Star Wars.. first game. I played forever.
I eventually won, and stil have that system, and that game.
I remember the rush, but the games change, the rush doesn't.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
42. I think the most powerful skills in both F3 and NV
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 04:06 PM
Dec 2011

are Lockpick, Speech, and Unarmed.

Unarmed does the most damage, outside of Fatboys and Bottlecap Mines, and Lockpick and Speech will handle every other situation.

Medicine is also good, but not as important.

I usually have a high explosives, because landmines are so much fun.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
44. Energy weapons are good,
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 06:39 PM
Dec 2011

but they don't deal the damage unarmed deals.

The laser Gatling gun (Vengence?) is really fun though. I killed every killable character in Megaton with it on one of my play throughs.

I do wish the Energy Weapon Bobble Head was more accessible in the beginning of the game though. At least the Cyborg Perk gives a bonus.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
45. yea, first harkness's plasma rifle was good in earlier stages.. now i have vengeance and it rips
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 06:43 PM
Dec 2011

people to shreds!

in close combat, the laser pistol is remarkably powerful if you can get 5-6 critical headshots in a row!

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