Serious question for this group, and only the serious need reply.

[BeHereNow]

Does any one here know anything about voo-doo?
PMs only please, and I will go into details.
In advance,
Thank you-
BHN

[PufPuf23]

1. The Serpent and the Rainbow is excellent source material and easy to find

is the book The Serpent and the Rainbow.

To quote from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/The-Serpent-Rainbow-Scientists-Astonishing/dp/0684839296/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336629046&sr=8-1

Book Description
Publication Date: August 5, 1997
In April 1982, ethnobotanist Wade Davis arrived in Haiti to investigate two documented cases of zombis -- people who had reappeared in Haitian society years after they had been officially declared dead and had been buried. Drawn into a netherworld of rituals and celebrations, Davis penetrated the vodoun mystique deeply enough to place zombification in its proper context within vodoun culture. In the course of his investigation, Davis came to realize that the story of vodoun is the history of Haiti -- from the African origins of its people to the successful Haitian independence movement, down to the present day, where vodoun culture is, in effect, the government of Haiti's countryside.

The Serpent and the Rainbow combines anthropological investigation with a remarkable personal adventure to illuminate and finally explain a phenomenon that has long fascinated Americans.

66 of 68 people found the following review helpful
An exploration of another world March 23, 2002

By Stephen A. Haines HALL OF FAMEVINE™ VOICE

Davis guides us through a fantastic world in this superb account of his investigation into Haitian "secret societies." Although outlandish at first glance, Haitian social justice and how it's administered is revealed in its deep cultural framework. The terms "voodoo" and "zombie," so ignorantly applied in our culture over the years, are clarified by this serious scholar. Davis offers much more than simply a redefinition of what media has distorted. He examines the origins and use of various toxins that are applied to put a living person in a death-like trance. This seemingly "evil" practice has deep and positive social roots. It's the social milieu that ultimately gives this book its real value. As Davis pursues botanical sources used in rendering people comatose, he is caught up in an investigation of why the drugs are used on particular individuals.
Davis' quest began with a commission to investigate anesthetic drugs from plants and animals. His mentor, Richard Schultes, was considered the founder of ethnobotany, the study of plant chemistry as a cultural artifact. Davis is sent to Haiti in 1982, a time of growing awareness of the numbers of natural products overlooked for medicinal use. Davis is sent to Haiti to investigate the zombi myths. He learns of the use of "magic powders" to bring about a catatonic state. People are declared dead, buried, but are exhumed and led away, often to a life of near slavery. Davis, using Schultes' work as background, investigates the Datura genus of plants. Datura in various species, ranges across the Western Hemisphere and is widely used by Amerindian and other peoples for various rituals. So, too, are the excretions of Bufo marinus, the Central American "cane toad," that today is the scourge of vast reaches of Australia. Its poison was adapted for various uses in Europe within years of Columbus' voyages.

This pharmocopoeia of toxins and anesthetic drugs have been a part of many cultures, but in Haiti, they prove to be a mechanism of social justice. Wade's account of the structure of Haitian society is worth the price of the book. The classic picture of hierarchical society, resembling so vividly that of our own, is dissected carefully by Davis. Haiti, with its history of dictators and oppression, foreign rule and harsh slavery so vividly depicted by North American media, retains a hidden but powerful underlying structure. While the government seems to sit dominant in Port-au-Prince, in the rural areas an almost independent organization of communities flourish. These local structures reflect accepted norms, deal with local conflict and provide an underlying enforcement mechanism for the maintenance of social order. Their foundation is derived from African roots, modified by Roman Catholic ritual, and remain unheralded except by those who decry their secretiveness. Wade argues these community establishments are not truly "secret societies," but instead reflect the needs of people for whom bombastic pronouncements have no place in their daily existence. The houngans ["vodoun priests"] are little more than Haitian parsons supporting their local populations.

Although focused on Haiti, Davis' book cannot but evoke how much we have yet to learn about other "hidden" or "clandestine" societies. If the method of "zombification" of malefactors seems extreme in our view, it may be simply because we hide our criminals away in concrete tombs at taxpayer's expense. Davis explains that no victim of zombification has been selected arbitrarily. Each situation is carefully examined to assess whether the victim has offended family or the community. Catatonic drugs are administered to render the culprit to a state where they may be transported from the community they've offended. To Davis, it's simply the quiet application of justice. Is this a technique we could apply in our own society? Probably not, since we don't possess the cultural background. But the rendering of justice at the local level for local offenses is surely something we might consider as a behavioural innovation. Davis leaves this question open, but if we engage in the type of investigation he relates, there might be other examples in other societies from which we can learn. This book offers much information and interesting examples of lives different from our own.

[PufPuf23]

2. KOSANBA

KOSANBA, the Congress of Santa Barbara, is a scholarly association for the study of Haitian Vodou based at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

The recent trajedy in Haiti has generated new interest in Haiti and Haitian culture, including Vodou. Several years ago, the Center for Black Studies Research developed an online introduction to Haitian Vodou, featuring portraits of the Lwa (spirits) created by Haitian artist Hërsza Barjon. We encourage you to visit DivineHaiti.org for an introduction to this critical aspect of Haitian culture. Barjon's paintings are accompanied by texts explaining the role of each Lwa (by Kyrah M. Daniels) as well as this brief overview of Haitian Vodou (by Dr. Claudine Michel):

http://www.research.ucsb.edu/cbs/projects/haiti/kosanba/index.html

[BeHereNow]

3. Sorry I am so ignorant, but can you tell me more about the NOLA connection?

I am certain the particular situation I am dealing with occurred in New Orleans;
a whack-a-doodle Christian/Voodoo person- know of such people?

BHN

[PufPuf23]

4. I know nothing about NOLA.

However, I can give you some info about about Voodoun-Christian syncretics and the Haitian community in the USA.

See Michael Bertiaux: http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/8522/bertiaux.html&date=2009-10-25+05:46:54

High up, on the thirty-third floor of a residential apartment
block on South Michigan Avenue, Chicago, lives a Voodoo
priest. He is a gently spoken man with intense eyes, heavy-
rimmed glasses and a dark, full-bodied beard. By day he works
as a government-counsellor, hearing welfare grievances
mainly from the Haitian community in the city. In his private
time, however, he celebrates the mysteries of Guede and
Legbha, the Voodoo counterpart of the dead and risen Christ.
Michael Bertiaux is by no means a typicai occultist. lndeed
it is difficult to say whether - in the traditional sense - he
is a black or white magician. He's not really sure himself.
Most occultists, he says, resort to techniques at both ends of
the spectrum. However he does admit that'life is so complex that
we sometimes have to do things to survive that would have
been considered, at one time, forms of black magic.'


also see wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bertiaux

I am a hobbiest that collects and reads esoteric books and histories for fun and have no direct experience at all with Voodoun (went to Ye Olde Voodoo Shoppe in French Quarter at Mardi Gras in 1972, only time ever been in NOLA).

Bertiaux has published trade books by also has written $$$$ grimoires not ever seen on the open market. He would past the test for whack-a- doodle Christian-Voudon mix but some consider him extraordinary in the European and American occult community. Evidently as far back as the 1700 slave trade, there was cross pollenation / syncretism with French Christian mysticism and Haitian Voudon. There are a variety of flavors and some are scams or superstitions or taken seriously at least as a culture (and why I copied that about Bertriaux working within the American Haitian community in Chicago as Voudoun is a culture, in both government and Voudon status as an example). Voudon is originallly an African religion brought by the slave trade to Haiti and then modified.

[BeHereNow]

5. Thank you for your PMs and also the information on this thread.

I think I am narrowing some things down and even hopeful
that something can be done.
Sincerely,
BHN