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Jilly_in_VA

(11,120 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 12:36 PM Jul 2024

Underground cave found on moon could be ideal base for explorers

Researchers have found evidence for a substantial underground cave on the moon that is accessible from the surface, making the spot a prime location to build a future lunar base.

The cave appears to be reachable from an open pit in the Mare Tranquillitatis (Sea of Tranquility), the ancient lava plain where the Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin first set foot on the moon more than half a century ago.

Analysis of radar data collected by Nasa’s lunar reconnaissance orbiter (LRO) revealed that the Mare Tranquillitatis pit, the deepest known pit on the moon, leads to a cave 45 metres wide and up to 80 metres long, an area equivalent to 14 tennis courts. The cave lies about 150 metres beneath the surface.

Lorenzo Bruzzone, of the University of Trento in Italy, said the cave was “probably an empty lava tube”, adding that such features could serve as human habitats for future explorers as they were “a natural shelter against the harsh lunar environment”.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/jul/15/underground-cave-found-on-moon-could-be-ideal-base-for-explorers

Could mean a whole new era in lunar exploration. Even colonization. Watch this space.

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Underground cave found on moon could be ideal base for explorers (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jul 2024 OP
Redundant vanamonde Jul 2024 #1
A cave is just a hole on its side. Charlie Chapulin Jul 2024 #2
This has been speculated about for decades... Wounded Bear Jul 2024 #3
My post on this from Linked In Metaphorical Jul 2024 #4
Gee, I wonder what they will find in there? werdna Jul 2024 #5
Moon cave a 'possible option' for lunar base, experts say Judi Lynn Jul 2024 #6
Scientists have confirmed a cave on the moon that could be used to shelter future explorers Judi Lynn Jul 2024 #7
Careful, that's where the Moon Nazis are hiding NickB79 Jul 2024 #8

Wounded Bear

(60,851 posts)
3. This has been speculated about for decades...
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 12:58 PM
Jul 2024

Converting existing caves by lining and sealing them could be easier than building above ground structures. Would be safer from smaller asteroid strikes as well. It's been written about in Sci-Fi since the 50's or so, maybe earlier.

Metaphorical

(2,346 posts)
4. My post on this from Linked In
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jul 2024

The Moon is a particularly harsh mistress (with apologies to Robert Heinlein). Not only is it airless, but it also has no shielding from radiation (we do because of the Van Allen belts), meaning that the only way that you can build lunar habitats is to build them underground. The current thinking is that such habitats would likely consist of the equivalent of inflatable balloons within lunar lava tubes, eventually supplemented by additional boring. Existing tubes obviously reduces the complexity of establishing a base dramatically.

So why put a base on the moon? The biggest is that the moon has only 1/6th the gravity of Earth, meaning that you need much less energy to escape its gravity well. Additionally, no atmosphere means no air resistance, meaning much less ablative shielding necessary on spacecraft (you may even be able to get away with ion impulse engines at that point). Anchoring a satellite in orbit around the moon makes it much easier to develop deep space telescopes in orbits that always keep them away from pointing at both the Sun and the Earth. Low-gravity manufacturing becomes feasible. The moon also becomes an ideal location for microwave collection systems, which can then be beamed to satellite transmitters and from there to Earthside waystations.

Of course, it also becomes a political football, a point brought up extensively since the 1950s.

The Moon was formed in part by the ejecta from Theia's collision with Gaia (the proto-Earth) about 3.8 billion years ago, and in part by the partial disintegration of Theia as it approached Earth's Roche limit. As a consequence, it is relatively differentiated, and has more oxygen, titanium, aluminum and iron in its crust than the Earth does (although almost no helium, hydrogen, as measured by concentration. Consequently, mining would serve two purposes - extracting minerals, and enlarging habitats.

This is one reason that I don't understand the rush to Mars. Mars only becomes feasible once the Moon is colonized, and we are a long way from even that just yet.

Judi Lynn

(162,548 posts)
6. Moon cave a 'possible option' for lunar base, experts say
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 11:47 PM
Jul 2024

By Aoife Hilton
Posted 2h ago



A hole on the moon.
The cave is approximately 100 metres deep and 45 metres wide.(Supplies: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University


  • In short: Researchers have found a "possible option" for a lunar base — amid a mysterious Moon cave.

  • The cave sits at a balmy temperature of 17C, making it suitable for human habitation.

  • What's next? An expert has recommended space farers explore the sub-surface of the Moon.

New research has indicated that a cave found on the Moon provides ideal conditions for human exploration.

Research published in the journal Nature Astronomy yesterday analysed images that NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) spacecraft took in 2010 of a pit in the Mare Tranquillitatis. The site, where Apollo 11 landed in 1969, is visible from Earth.

The Nature Astronomy paper confirmed previous research from Geophysical Research Letters last year, which indicated the pit led to a Moon cave. The cave extends approximately 100 metres deep and at least 45m wide, the study says.

It has a skylight on the Moon's surface, leading down to vertical and overhanging walls, and a sloping floor that might extend further underground.

More:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-16/cave-discovered-on-the-moon/104102032

Judi Lynn

(162,548 posts)
7. Scientists have confirmed a cave on the moon that could be used to shelter future explorers
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 11:59 PM
Jul 2024

The findings suggest there could be hundreds of pits on the moon and thousands of lava tubes.



A plane passes in front of the moon.
By: AP via Scripps NewsPosted at 6:29 PM, Jul 15, 2024

Scientists have confirmed a cave on the moon, not far from where Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed 55 years ago, and suspect there are hundreds more that could house future astronauts.

An Italian-led team reported Monday that there's evidence of a sizable cave accessible from the deepest known pit on the moon. It's located at the Sea of Tranquility, just 250 miles from Apollo 11's landing site. The pit, like the more than 200 others discovered up there, was created by the collapse of a lava tube.

Researchers analyzed radar measurements by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, and compared the results with lava tubes on Earth. Their findings appeared in the journal Nature Astronomy.

. . .

Most of the pits seem to be located in the moon’s ancient lava plains, according to the scientists. There also could be some at the moon’s south pole, the planned location of NASA’s astronaut landings later this decade. Permanently shadowed craters there are believed to hold frozen water that could provide drinking water and rocket fuel.

More:
https://www.scrippsnews.com/science-and-tech/space/scientists-have-confirmed-a-cave-on-the-moon-that-could-be-used-to-shelter-future-explorers

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