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BootinUp

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Mon Dec 8, 2025, 09:28 PM Monday

excerpt from: The Penicillin Myth - Asimov Press

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For decades, scientists and historians have puzzled over inconsistencies in Fleming’s story. For starters, the window to Fleming’s lab was rarely (if ever) left open, precisely to prevent the kind of contamination that supposedly led to penicillin’s discovery. Second, the story is strikingly similar to Fleming’s earlier discovery of lysozyme, another antibacterial substance, which also featured lucky contamination from an open window. Third, Fleming claimed to have discovered the historic culture plate on September 3rd, but the first entry in his lab notebook isn’t dated until October 30th, nearly two months later.

Last, and most important: penicillin only works if it’s present before the staphylococci. Fleming did not know it at the time, but penicillin interferes with bacterial cell wall synthesis, which only happens when bacteria are actively growing. Visible colonies, however, are composed mostly of mature or dead cells. By the time a colony can be seen, it is often too late for penicillin to have any effect. In fact, the Penicillium mold typically won’t even grow on a plate already filled with staphylococcus colonies. For years, scientists have attempted to replicate Fleming’s original discovery. All have met with failure.

Thus, it’s difficult to reconcile Fleming’s story with these historical and scientific discrepancies. Did he misremember events from 15 years earlier? Could he have fudged the details to make for a more compelling narrative? Or, might Fleming’s experiment have been subject to an unusual confluence of chance events unbeknownst even to him?

Speculation about how Fleming discovered penicillin is of little consequence compared to its practical impact. However, science is about evaluating evidence and moving closer to the “truth.” As we near the 100th anniversary of penicillin’s discovery — which undoubtedly will encourage even greater repetition of the story — it’s in this spirit that we must scrutinize the story’s veracity.

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https://open.substack.com/pub/cell/p/penicillin-myth

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excerpt from: The Penicillin Myth - Asimov Press (Original Post) BootinUp Monday OP
Wow. Good stuff ! - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Monday #1
That's a good read. Several theories on how Fleming got the improbable result that he did. erronis Tuesday #2

erronis

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2. That's a good read. Several theories on how Fleming got the improbable result that he did.
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 02:09 PM
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I was sort of expecting to read that a woman had actually discovered penicillin and Fleming claimed credit....

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