This just about sums it up id say RANT

[gay texan]

this is 2023.

One of my earliest memories of television is seeing Yassar Arifat and some things going down in Israel on CBS evening news with Walter Cronkite.

Here i am 3 years old in 1976, and can remember that 21" inch console Zenith showing me people hurting other people in a land far away.

Throughout the years it kept going on and on and on.

Im 50 fucking years old, and honestly whats changed? Atrocities committed in the name of some damn belief. Kids and babies blown up, hostages taken, bloodshed all in the name of two conflicting stories of an entity who owns a patch of damn desert. Powerful nations exploited this notion for gain.

This shit never ends. It's probably going to do us all in.......

[dflprincess]

1. The never ending game of "I got you last"

has worn us all out.

[Skittles]

2. it all just makes me sick

it's like they hate each other more than they love their own kids, disgusting

[Think. Again.]

3. Thank you...

...for your rage about all this.

[spike jones]

4. And it is referred to as the Holy Land.

[Duppers]

8. Yep. So ironic!..."The Holy Land"

Some decades ago, my hyper-religious mother traveled throughout the area and came back disappointed because of her unrealistic expectations that the buildings would look similar to but more ancient than, Roman cathedrals.
Dumb? Yes, she was, but as I said, she was religious.

[progressoid]

5. Nina Paley!

I remember first seeing this here in the Atheists and Agnostics forum.

Thanks for bringing her back into my brain. She's done some great stuff.

[czarjak]

6. Pretty much.

[HAB911]

7. Truth

[samnsara]

9. their beliefs control them..should be the other way around

[Farmer-Rick]

10. My sister who converted to Judaism

Went to visit Israel. Before she went, it was all about how wonderful it would be. How she was going to move there when they retired.

When she came back, she was rather subdued and little by little it came out why. "It was just a desert" she said. She was dismayed it had many over crowded cities and dirty looking areas. I guess she expected everything to be lush and green with many beautiful gleaming cities.

She then stopped talking about moving there and has bought a farm in PA to retire to.

[MayReasonRule]

11. This Recounted Tale Reminds Me Of Lyle Lovett's Song "Here I Am"

Look
I understand too little too late
I realize there are things you say and do
You can never take back
But what would you be if you didn't even try
You have to try
So after a lot of thought
I'd like to reconsider
Please
If it's not too late
Make it a cheeseburger

So glad it worked out well for her!

[Mr.Bill]

12. I happen to have a copy of an old front page

from the Washington Post. The headline reads:

UN Backs Arab Peace Plan 80-0.
Hope for New Era of Peace in Middle East.

It's from 1958.

[gay texan]

13. Woah

Insane