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progressoid

(50,790 posts)
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:19 AM Aug 2016

"molecular hydrogen, the very small particles, not the big ones that can cause,like, explosions "



I only watched bits and pieces of this because, ouch, my brain hurts.

Apparently Zen pulled this bit of lunacy from her site but thankfully(?) the internet never forgets.


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"molecular hydrogen, the very small particles, not the big ones that can cause,like, explosions " (Original Post) progressoid Aug 2016 OP
Holy shit Warpy Aug 2016 #1
This woman is either... Archae Aug 2016 #2
Oh noes! Immflamuation is everywheres!... AlbertCat Aug 2016 #3
Q: Is there any advantage to using nitrogen instead of compressed air in tires? kristopher Sep 2016 #9
The eyes... the eyes are empty like a shark's eyes discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #4
Hmmmm Revanchist Aug 2016 #5
Did you follow up? What did you find out? nt Free-Way-Fanny Aug 2016 #7
It seems to be an effective anti-inflamitory and anti-oxitdant Revanchist Aug 2016 #8
What is oxitdant? longship Oct 2016 #11
I was tired and spelled the words incorrectly. Revanchist Oct 2016 #12
Well, if the science is difficult, the spelling must be horrible! longship Oct 2016 #13
I had a hydrogen once, as big as a football. Orrex Aug 2016 #6
. HuckleB Sep 2016 #10

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
1. Holy shit
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:26 AM
Aug 2016

I could feel brain cells considering suicide, so I didn't make it past the 10 second mark.

I guess high school chemistry is no longer required. There might be fewer total suckers out there if it still was.

She's even dumber than The Food Babe. That takes hard work.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
3. Oh noes! Immflamuation is everywheres!...
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 11:25 AM
Aug 2016

.... nowadays.

Where are my hydrogen pills????



This reminds me of when I bought my car back in 2007 and the sales guy was telling me "We fill the tires with nitrogen for a smoother ride." After about the 3rd time he told me this I said "You do realize that the atmosphere is like 80% nitrogen. So you filled the tires with air."

Who wants to bet that there is more hydrogen in the water you use to take the pill than in the pill?

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
9. Q: Is there any advantage to using nitrogen instead of compressed air in tires?
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 05:57 PM
Sep 2016
Q: Is there any advantage to using nitrogen instead of compressed air in tires?

A: Sort of. From the top: Air is 78 percent nitrogen, just under 21 percent oxygen, and the rest is water vapor, CO2 and small concentrations of noble gases such as neon and argon. We can ignore the other gases.

There are several compelling reasons to use pure nitrogen in tires.

First is that nitrogen is less likely to migrate through tire rubber than is oxygen, which means that your tire pressures will remain more stable over the long term. Racers figured out pretty quickly that tires filled with nitrogen rather than air also exhibit less pressure change with temperature swings. That means more consistent inflation pressures during a race as the tires heat up. And when you're tweaking a race car's handling with half-psi changes, that's important.

Passenger cars can also benefit from the more stable pressures. But there's more: Humidity (water) is a Bad Thing to have inside a tire. Water, present as a vapor or even as a liquid in a tire, causes more of a pressure change with temperature swings than dry air does. It also promotes corrosion of the steel or aluminum rim.

If I ever need to top off a tire when I'm out on the road...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/a3894/4302788/

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
5. Hmmmm
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 02:21 AM
Aug 2016

While she might be ignorant on some basic facts, I decided to do a little poking around before I called the entire thing bullshit and there are quite a few journal article on pubmed, which I consider to be a reliable source, on trials and studies involving the use of molecular hydrogen (MH). So while I won't remark on the particular product that she is selling, the overall concept seems intriguing and I just might do some more reading on MH.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
8. It seems to be an effective anti-inflamitory and anti-oxitdant
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:02 PM
Aug 2016

as well as other uses
Image below is from this journal article



There are several others that seem to confirm at least some of the findings so I would at least give it the benefit of a doubt.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3680337/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3788323/

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
12. I was tired and spelled the words incorrectly.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:05 AM
Oct 2016

I'm not defending the video or advising the purchase of hydrogen pills, but there might be some benefit of the use of molecular hydrogen, especially in a gaseous form in a theraputic setting.

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