A Voice for Men writer laments: “Since the advent of ‘marital rape,’ sex is no longer a loving duty,

[redqueen]

More MRA madness from Manboobz.

Has A Voice for Men just declared itself in favor of marital rape?

In the midst of a long and otherwise fairly tedious piece complaining about wives asking their husbands to do their fair share of the chores, Clint Carpentier offers some rather startling thoughts on marital rape laws, and how he thinks they help to make marriage a losing proposition for modern men.

In the good old days, he writes, “sex was a wifely duty she was obligated to provide as per the terms of marriage.” But “since the advent of ‘marital rape,’ sex [in marriage] is no longer a loving duty, so it has become whim and weapon … .”

Yep. Apparently “being raped by your husband” is really just a way to fulfill your “loving duty” as a wife.

So, Carpentier concludes, if wives demand that you do the chores around the house, and you can’t rape them at will, what’s the point of even having one in the first place? After all, he argues, in an age of washing machines and readymade meals chores are easy, and men can get “once per day of blasé sex” from “any street-hooker” or splurge on “mind-blowing sex once a week [from] a well trained call-girl.”

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http://manboobz.com/2013/12/11/a-voice-for-men-writer-laments-since-the-advent-of-marital-rape-sex-is-no-longer-a-loving-duty-so-it-has-become-whim-and-weapon/

[ismnotwasm]

1. Good god those guys are nuts

Like wives don't want, or enjoy sex. Has to be rape, apparently.
What an fuckedup asshole.

[Warpy]

2. It sounds like this is the kind of guy who's never had consensual sex

He sounds like sex with an unwilling partner who is not really participating in it is the best thing, ever.

He needs to find some hyper religious woman who still buys that "wifely duty" bullshit to provide inert orifices for him to masturbate into.

Better yet, he needs to buy himself a Real Doll. She'll always be there for him and be just as enjoyable as a living woman who would really rather not, thanks very much.

[Ken Burch]

5. I'd keep him away from sheep farms, too.

(do I need to say more?)

[ismnotwasm]

7. LOL

Can't help it-- that was funny

[redqueen]

10. A doll if anything.

Religious women don't deserve to be a servant and masturbatory aid for his misogynist ass any more than any other woman.

He sounds like the controlling type so I doubt a doll would do it for him. These types want to boss someone around. Kids too if possible.

[lolly]

3. What's the point, indeed?

Apparently, he thinks his withdrawal from the marriage market will cause much distress.

It obviously hasn't occurred to him that prospective wives might very well ask themselves "what's the point of getting married, if it just means I'll have a lazy jerk demanding sex and refusing to help out around the house?"

[redqueen]

11. +1

[intaglio]

4. Manboobz, Freeper Madness and FSTDT

Delving into the underbelly of the haters on our behalf.

[jmowreader]

6. They consider sex a "duty"?

[redqueen]

12. Msybe he knows that for his partner, it would be.

I'm reminded of this bit by Louis C.K.

We're so bad at sex and then we wonder why women aren’t like, really aggressive about sex. We think it’s cause they don’t have as much desire as we do. That’s how stupid men are, that we think ‘they’re just weird, women are like fucked up in the head cause they don’t wanna just fuck all the time. If I was a women, I’d just fuck everybody. Why don’t they wanna fuck all the time? I do’. Of course you do, cause when you fuck, you get to fuck a woman! When she fucks, she has to fuck a guy! Wildly different experiences. For a man, 100% of the time, it’s the greatest thing that ever happened in his entire life. For a woman, about 40% of the time, when she’s being fucked by a guy, she’s thinking ‘I’ll get over this in a week. It’s not the worst thing. I’m not gonna cry this time’ “Another thing that proves how bad men are at sex is that after sex, you’re looking at two very different people. The man just wants to lay there, be cool and the woman wants to cuddle…’Why is she so NEEDY?’ She’s not needy you idiot, she’s horny, because you did nothing for her. YOU DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. HER PUSSY IS ON FIRE BECAUSE IT’S GONE UNFUCKED COMPLETELY. Of course you’re fine, you climbed on and went “KFHGSKG” and rolled off. And she’s on you because she’s like ‘WH-at SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO HAPPEN, THIS IS BULLSHIT!!” If you fuck a woman well, she will LEAVE YOU ALONE. ‘Thanks a lot buddy, zzzzz’

– Oh, Louis CK

[ismnotwasm]

19. I think there's a lot of truth to that

Kind of off topic but I just finished rereading "The Story of O" which is one of the saddest books I know. O is looking for power, not submission, and something beyond orgasm--- and she only finds that power with other women, never men.

The last lines say she wants to die because her "Master" is tired of her-- he gives her permission to do so.

Seen as a living sexual allegory, the myth of the oversexed, always ready male and women reduced to nothing but physical meat for male pleasure, the story escapes the bounds of "erotica" and tells a gendered truth.

[Sheldon Cooper]

8. And for the third time in three days, I invite these assholes to

go ahead and stay single. Put their money where their mouth is.

[DetlefK]

9. Reminds me of a joke:

Grandma says: "If we had had suitcases with wheels and electric blankets back in my days, I never would have married."

[CrispyQ]

13. Why would a woman marry a jerk like this?

Seriously, this asshole has nothing to offer. Nothing. Women are clearly nothing to him but someone to cook & clean for him & to satisfy his desires. What the hell is in it for the woman to be with a man like this? It seems a lot of their anger toward women is because they don't have decent relationships with women, but how can you have a decent relationship with a woman when this is how you view them? It's a catch-22 situation, but they don't see it. Instead, they blame women, when they are the problem.

You could almost feel sorry for them if they weren't so damned nasty.

[MadrasT]

14. Sometimes the true depth of jerkiness is not revealed until after the wedding.

Sometime shortly after I was married, my husband actually said (about sex, when I didn't want to) "But you HAVE to... you are my WIFE."

I was all like "WAIT WUT??? Hell no, I don't think so."

[redqueen]

15. I will never understand why anyone would want to have sex with someone

who isn't equally excited to have sex with them.

Coercive sex, pity sex, renting prostitutes to use as masturbatory aids ... what the fuck is up with people who don't care whether their partner wants them?

[MadrasT]

18. Me neither.

I would think if the object of your affection was saying "No no no" it would be a libido killer.

But apparently not, if you just view the other person as a sperm receptacle.

[redqueen]

22. "... apparently not, if you just view the other person as a sperm receptacle."

Exactly. Which is exactly how so many men think of women. The Invisible Men project on tumblr aims to shine a bright light on exactly that mindset. These men do not see women as human.

[CrispyQ]

16. Yes, I forget that these types can sometimes be very charming. --nt

[MadrasT]

17. For sure

He had somewhat of a Jekyll and Hyde thing going on.

[gollygee]

20. In some cases they aren't finding women to marry them

and in those cases they say it's because western women are evil man-haters or something.

These are also the guys who, no matter how average looking or even unattractive they are, are offended if really beautiful women don't date them. The types who are overweight and have a "no fat chicks" bumper sticker on their car. They don't just think some woman should be available for them - they think the specific woman they want should be available for them.

It's a huge entitlement issue.

Oh and then, as far as my MRA family member, his misogyny has this weird flip side of really over the top chivalry. So he really dishes out something that appears very charming at the same time as he's got these attitudes. Some times he'll be ridiculously (and IMO to the point of smothering) charming, but under it all this this base of control.

[seabeyond]

21. we live in a society wehre not only beautiful, but computerized perfect women are presented to men

constantly, their right to have. when boys were young, my oldest would continually get pissed at the shows. saying the old man was forever getting the young hot. how ridiculous that was. or the ugly nerdy was getting the hot chick. he recognized all on his own, saw the conditioning and spoke out.

not tough to see what our boys and men are conditioned by

then the men are pissed because they do not get that

and the world promised them that.