Men don't get to decide

[cinnabonbon]

(from here: http://socialjusticefeminismandart.tumblr.com/post/70123918922/men-also-dont-get-to-decide-what-feminism-is)

What is your favourite feminist graphic?

[BainsBane]

1. One thing that really pisses me off

Is the men around here who think they have the right to tell me I'm not a real feminist because I care about human trafficking and rape. Apparently "real feminists" concern themselves only with the issues reactionary men think are important.

[cinnabonbon]

2. I know. It's really telling how they try to keep you from being critical of things they

are afraid you'll say poignant things about. I mean, if they find those other causes so worthy of attention, GREAT. Then they can focus on them while we talk about the things that needs to be addressed to make the world safer for women.

For all its worth, I really enjoy seeing your comments in threads.

[BainsBane]

3. TY, cinnabonbon

You're a welcome addition to this site.

[cinnabonbon]

4. Thank you!

I'm just so glad that I dared to make the leap.

[geek tragedy]

5. Men who use phrases like "real feminists" are 100% anti-feminist.

They try to divide feminists vs feminists, and quite simply can't handle a woman disagreeing with them.

[BainsBane]

6. That sums it up well

I couldn't agree more.

[niyad]

7. makes you want to look at them and say, "and you think your opinion matters to me, why???"

[Tuesday Afternoon]

13. amen! Or awoman! if you prefer but, Hear Hear nonetheless.

[cinnabonbon]

10. Nailed it.

It's surprising how they always put their friends in the "real feminist" category and then try to dismiss disagreement that way. If they do it right, they'll get the feminists to argue, too. That way the guys can avoid having to look too closely at whatever touchy subject the "mean" feminist brought up.

[nomorenomore08]

22. And they're allowed pick their friends, just like anyone else. But they're not allowed to decide

who's a "real" feminist or who isn't, any more than any other individual has that right.

[cinnabonbon]

24. Yes, absolutely. And it's great that they've befriended feminists. I appreciate that.

However, using their friends as tools to try to shut other feminists up is not good. That's just using feminism to silence women's voices, ironically.

If they want to be a part of the debate, it's better if they own their words, you know?

[nomorenomore08]

28. Absolutely. And they should argue honestly instead of disingenuously whining

about being "bullied."

[ismnotwasm]

14. You mean like legalizing prostitution and pornography

Transparent Dumbasses.

[CTyankee]

20. It surprises me to see this again and again and again HERE...

I try to point out that they are actually proving our point over and over and over again and why don't they just STOP and THINK about it! But I see it so much I just have to

[nomorenomore08]

21. They can disagree with your point of view all they want. But where the hell do they get off

telling you you're not a real feminist?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

8. The real bastards

think they can tell their wife/girlfriend to either have an abortion or a baby.

Forced abortion and forced childbearing are both wrong.

[cinnabonbon]

9. Oh god, that is so wrong.

And I'm pretty sure that's one of the big warning signs of abuse, too. A child can link her to the abuser forever, so of course it's a great tool to dominate her.

And an abortion (when it's not wanted) must be incredibly traumatic.

[geek tragedy]

11. Look at the men who argue that they should be exempted from child support

if they get a woman pregnant and she refuses to have an abortion.

They post here at DU.

[cinnabonbon]

12. They obviously don't get the point of child support

the shining beacons of liberal values that they are.

To me, though, personally? The scariest ones are the ones that rapes a woman and files for custody when they get out of prison. I can't believe that is legal!

[niyad]

18. my response to that is, "if you don't want to pay child support, get it snipped, or keep it zipped"

[nomorenomore08]

23. I suppose if they're willing to surrender all parental rights, forever, then that's one thing...

But in that case they should be offered a free vasectomy so it doesn't happen again.

[geek tragedy]

25. except that misses the entire point of child support, which is to

well, support the child.

Child support isn't for the mother's benefit, it's for the child's.

[nomorenomore08]

27. True. Though I wish our society were more oriented around supporting families, period.

Instead you have "libertarians" complaining about having to pay $3 a month (on average) so poor kids can eat.

[ismnotwasm]

15. Oh graphic?

I like lots but how about a little feminist bingo?

[cinnabonbon]

16. Oh no, not the dreaded bingo card! :D

You have no idea how tempted I am to steal that and pull it up the next time GD explodes.

[KitSileya]

17. LOL My one and only hide (ever) came from posting a bingo card

It was a feminist one, and I do believe they took umbrage at the quoted b!tch word in one of the squares (again, pointing out misogynistic language is worse than using misogynistic language, doncha know.)

[niyad]

19. thanks, you saved me the trouble of hunting for this in my saves.

[TDale313]

26. Spot on!