I would like to see the jury results and alert message for mercuryblues hidden post in this group.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

Getting confusing.

[PeaceNikki]

1. Here. I was # 6

Automated Message
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Wed May 7, 2014, 11:56 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

calling women sluts now allowed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125543021

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Another hof meta call-out thread. If she hadn't included the user name, it wouldn't be a problem. These types of posts are why admin shut down the Meta Forum. It's disruptive and a personal attack on a person for having a post survive an alert and a jury decision. It's also a call-out of the jurors. The last line is a shot at admin, because they won't rewrite the TOS for the demands of a few.
There are multiple reasons to hide this post.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 7, 2014, 12:06 PM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This should have been a SOP alert.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Juries do not decide if a post is off-topic. That is for hosts and admin to determine.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I think that call-outs make DU suck. It is possible to have a discussion about this without calling out and attacking another member.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: leave it in HOF
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. Alerter, show thy face. Thanks PeaceNikki. Also, other Jury members please step forward.

[PeaceNikki]

3. Appears to be someone trolling Hof looking for shit on which to alert.

Maybe I'm wrong but...

[BainsBane]

7. That is a daily occurance

There are people who scrutinize every word in this group. I cannot tell you how many times I have had posts I've made here repeated back to me, including information about me personally that was totally irrelevant to the discussion I was engaged in at the time. One member mockingly repeated information about my family. Naturally that was not hidden.

[mercuryblues]

4. oops

you left in the name on the alert

"Automated message"

should I alert??

[mercuryblues]

5. I did

not realize that I had the poster's name in there. I would have gladly removed it and provided a link to the post instead. -That would have been acceptable.

naming the man who calls a woman slut is worse than calling women sluts is what I got out of the hide.

[BainsBane]

8. Remember when Sea had a thread locked in GD for posting jury results?

And the alerter and locker was a person who has said he posts the results of every jury he sits on?
You can't make that shit up.

[Squinch]

10. That hide was pure bullshit. The Freepers have taken the controls.

[kcr]

11. Callouts happen all the time on The New and Improved DU

It is bullshit.

[Squinch]

12. Also bigotry, misogyny, alert stalking and general teabaggery are tolerated and celebrated.

But a woman's right to choose and respect for minorities and women are considered kinda icky.

I think Michelle Bachmann prays for us now.

[BainsBane]

13. I shouldn't laugh

but it's either that or cry.

[Squinch]

14. What can you do?

[BainsBane]

6. Considering the men's group has a mega thread

about TA calling her out by name, that hide is ironic. Also, I've been called out all over this site, complete with screen shots, and NONE of those call outs have been hidden. In fact, I have seen people who themselves engage in and support call outs denounce what they see as call outs in this group.

The last line of the alert is interesting. The alerter imagines that only a few DUers think sexist slurs an issue, whereas the rest consider women fair game to insult at will? Is that his argument? That is sadly revealing of that person's mindset. The majority demographic of the Democratic Party constitutes "a few" that don't count enough to be respected by the far more important minority voting group who believes themselves entitled to insult women for kicks. I beg to differ. The majority of DUers do not consider sexist insults or sexism of any kind acceptable and have said so repeatedly.

Yes, MercuryBlues' OP was far more insulting that threats of death and rape that none of the anti-HOF crowd has seen fit to denounce in anyway. Alerter and HOF watchers, why is it that you so loudly and often express your opposition to the existence of this group and the fact we post about feminist issues in GD, but can't bother to express even slight disapproval for threats of rape and death against a member of this group? What people object to and what they don't reveals their values. The fact that none can bring themselves to speak out against threats of rape but instead voice outrage to feminists and so-called "radfems" rather than those who threaten violence shows precisely what matters to them.

[ismnotwasm]

9. They do?

I need to say this again. Tiny men's groups On Internet forums, MRA's, general misogynists or sexists are in no way, shape or form comparable to the feminist movement. Period. Anti-feminist groups have proliferated, but do not carry a positive message. They sound depressingly the same, unlike feminism, which is fluid, dynamic, argumentative and activist.

There a number of men's groups that are. I mean, you have your promise keeper types, how to be manly types, Rabid MRA types, but you also have men's groups out there working on redefining masculinity into something not toxic--an idea that came from these same men's groups, anti- rape groups, anti-violence groups groups that ally with feminism without feeling threatened.

When you set up a "movement" or group whose main purpose is to compare itself to something as powerful and as long lasting as feminism, a movement that is not only evolving, but responsible for positive changes (for one example-- there are others) you are a annoyance, not an 'enemy', not an alternative, not an opposite, not anything really.

Men have every right for a safe place to discuss particular issues. It's too bad they waste their time like that.

[boston bean]

15. can you pm me a link?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

16. link to TMG thread about TA for anyone interested -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/111411793

[ismnotwasm]

17. They sound a bit... Petulant

As well as wholly out of context, and not making sense.


Milk and cookies should fix them right up.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

18. ... lol ...

honestly, though, I have not seen/read the thread in a Very Long Time.

Milk and Cookies for my Fan Club!!

[ismnotwasm]

19. As requested

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. Thank you for the positive donation to the worthy cause that is my Fan Club -

I am sure they appreciate it and, maybe, they will be good children and take the required nap after snack time

[BainsBane]

21. Did you see the kick?

in case "anyone had missed the insult." Sea was threatened with rape and murder and not a one would say there was anything wrong with it, even when prompted multiple times and links were provided. Yet we must all heed that one insult above all others?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

22. No, I haven't looked at thread in ages. When it first started I looked but, I was banned at the time

from that group ... so, why bother reading something that I could not address even if I wanted.

I have several times in GD explained (tried to explain) the literary device known as a metaphor, simile, allegory.

Honestly, it was a compliment.

Good hunting dogs are highly valued where I come from.

[BainsBane]

23. Regardless of how they interpeted your remarks

It does not compare to threats of rape and death. I find astounding the continual fixation on that remark after their refusal to address the violent threats to Sea.

People on this site are insulted every single day, yet we are supposed to believe that one insult is more important?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

24. total agreement with you on this Baines.

Even if I meant it as an insult (more like a left handed compliment, really)

IT WAS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT WAS SAID TO SEABEYOND.

I can NOT stress that enough.

Bodily Harm and threats of violence? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.