Just one thing I wanted to draw attention to. (HOF THREAD)

[redqueen]

This little hair-on-fire, days-long dramafest started because a thread was hidden due to the use of a homophobic/ misogynistic insult.

We saw a lot more shit follow that - 'sissies', 'knickers in a twist', portraying anyone who might have a problem with it as a woman (an old woman, of course), etc.

Then there were a bunch of posts about the c-word, and now I just saw one with 'cumdumpster'.

It's just interesting to me how this bullshit morphed so quickly from HELP HELP THE RUDE ONE IS BEING OPPRESSED! SAVE HIM FROM THE PRUDE WORD POLICE AAAAAA! and FIRST AMENDMENT!! FREE SPEECH!! CENSORSHIP!!!! SQUAAAAWK!!! into just how much hateful bigoted shit about women can I post without getting a hide?!

[niyad]

2. what is felacio?

[Cooley Hurd]

3. Figure it out...

Spell check didn't correct me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellatio

[niyad]

22. I know what the correctly-spelled word means.

[redqueen]

4. Not the point. If you want to argue the validity of the hide go elsewhere. nt

[Cooley Hurd]

5. I'm not, but you're calling a sexual act homophobic...

...when it's clearly not.

On edit - I didn't realize I was in HOF. So I'll self delete.

You're allowed your corner of DU...

[redqueen]

7. That is why the thread was hidden. That is simply a fact. Do you understand?

Your opinion about the alert and the jury's decision are fucking immaterial.

If you have nothing to say about the issue I raised in the OP... well that would not be surprising. Not one fucking bit.

[redqueen]

9. Thanks *ever* so much for sharing. Buh bye now.

[Cooley Hurd]

10. Have a great weekend, my friend!

</classy>

[ismnotwasm]

20. Toxic and angry and pointless

Don't you feel sorry for those left behind? The ones that don't understand social evolution much less social revolution? I kinda do, a little. Except, by the time they realize they're antiquated and foolish, they can't change or approach an idea from a different view.

Just read "The Geranium" by Flannery O'Conner. Reminds me of those types. In this case, the protagonist was an old man--country boy, who moved to New York with his daughter. He reminisces about the later part of his life, and dislikes all the changes he sees. When he sees that a well dressed black man can live in the same apartment building, he almost loses it. When the black man kindly helps him up after a fall and calls him "oldtimer", he is beyond insulted.

Yet, he is also powerless, and lives with the frustration of the powerless. The geranium in the story isn't his-- a man in apartments across the way sets it out in the sun every day. It reminds the old man of his roots. When the geranium falls from the window, the old man gets angry and tells the owner to pick it up. The tells him 'you pick it up'

But the old man can't. There are too many steps and too many changes. The story ends.

[redqueen]

30. No, I don't feel sorry for them. Not at all. Not even a teeny tiny bit.

The world was a slower place back then. This is the age of information and these people have lived in it for two decades now. There is no longer any excuse for anyone with access to the internet to be so backwards.

[ismnotwasm]

32. Yeah I suppose

In the story, the old man wasn't a sexist he was a racist-- he saw blacks as less then human, even though in his pre New York days he had a buddy he'd go often hunting with who was black. In his mind-- they weren't even friends, because blacks and whites were never friends.

In New York, his time was past. Like it's (far too slowly) going past the sexist morons, or the idiots who think words don't matter

Our primary communication tool? The way we describe, sometimes inadvertently our culture? Words don't matter? No big deal? Just say anything, anywhere, anytime? They don't matter?

The reason I used the story kind of an allegory for the situation here was to show how words do matter, especially when someone pays attention to what they're saying, and uses them to make a point, not just a half incoherent pissed off rant

I don't mind cuss words. I use them a lot.

But I do mind hurting people who have been objectified, degraded or hurt by "words" and it's very easy not to do it by choosing different ones.

[BainsBane]

14. You are my hero

[redqueen]

16. Back atcha

[Squinch]

6. This is true. And in addition to the "I hate women and yippee now I can really show it" sentiments,

there are also the, "Anyone who disagrees with me is censoring me and burning books and really, really being MEAN to me, and now I have no FREE SPEECH!!!!" sentiments.

And the saddest/funniest part of it all is that about 90% of them don't have any idea that they are so clearly stating these things.

[redqueen]

11. I just hope people notice. It says a whole fucking lot nt

[BainsBane]

12. Absolutely

One thread in particular is dedicated entirely to that purpose, and none of it has been hidden.

[redqueen]

13. It was amusing when it was just staggeringly bad logic fails

and proudly-advertised ignorance.

Now the hate is really starting to surface, and the main target comes as no surprise to any thoughtful person.

[theHandpuppet]

24. So where are the juries?

Or is this just a free for all? I have to admit I haven't read the threads being discussed but just from what y'all have related here, I'm shocked this crap is being allowed to stand.

[BainsBane]

25. They are leaving all the insults

I alerted on one post, and it came back 2-5. I also alerted on the OP but wasn't the first to do so. I know others alerted on many posts that all stood, usually with 2-5 verdicts. My own OP was nearly hidden and came back 3-4.

[theHandpuppet]

27. I just got through reading most of the thread.

Now I feel like taking a shower. I truly think that was the most vile, woman-hating thread I've ever read on DU. This place has gone to hell. Did respond to several of the posts, not that it will do any good but I wanted to provide some backup.

Even the gutter would have spit out this thread. The jury system is a joke.

[BainsBane]

29. and that thread has 85 recs

[noamnety]

15. I think they may have hit bingo

with the sentiment that censoring bigoted speech is inherently right-wing.

(Cause, you know, right wing fundies are all about insisting oppressed groups are treated with respect.)

[redqueen]

17. No shit. The absolute abject stupidity of the idea that it's true liberals who defend that shit

and rightwing trolls (only female ones though! it's the uppity loudmouth women who are the real enemy here!) are the only ones objecting...

Just sad.

[MadrasT]

18. I do believe this is DUs "jumped the shark" moment.

The place has gone batshit crazy. I am awestruck.

[Aldo Leopold]

19. I'm with you.

[Squinch]

21. "Jumped the shark" is exactly the phrase I was thinking about. Way too much stupid flying around.

[AverageJoe90]

23. It does seem that way sometimes.....sadly enough. nt

[redqueen]

26. I had that same thought.

Kind of a watershed moment.

[TDale313]

28. It really is disturbing & disheartening.

Some people are really, really invested in their "right" to face no pushback or consequences when calling a woman any slur they wish to. And yes, it's like children pushing the boundaries- how much can I get away with, and if they can't, then wahh- you're picking on me!

[redqueen]

31. The Political Correctness Word Police Squad of Prudery has taken away some cherished slurs & insults

Many of those who are sick of being told they can't use bigoted insults are finally digging in their heels. Apparently, they have had enough of us mean old wimminz taking their toys away!

[TDale313]

33. Love the gif! n/t

[ismnotwasm]

34. LOL!

[Squinch]

35. In the continuing saga of "DU Jumps The Shark," there's a thread about an awful tragedy

in which one 14 year old who feared for his life from bullies has stabbed and killed another 14 year old.

The thread has devolved into... wait for it... "Pro-gun people are oppressed." I kid you not.

It's time for me to take a break.

[BainsBane]

36. I hear that pro-gun opressions line all the time

and am told how I am personally responsible for their oppression. I didn't think it was possible to outdo the "white men have it so bad" crowd, but they succeed.