how many women walk into a public bathroom, and look at every knook and cranny and into fixtures

[seabeyond]

Last edited Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:32 PM - Edit history (2)

so that when you use the restroom, a god given fuckin human right..... we have no camera pointed at our crotch, so some man can sick back and jack off?

how many?

i KNOW that it is instinctual with me, EVERYTIME i walk into a public bathroom.

since i know having been told repeatedly, it is my responsibility that no man gets shots of me, so he can get off.

and the dressing room

and the hotel room when on your own.

how many women have been doing this for the last three decades and are well trained.

that we are so conditioned by this behavior, that it is not even a thought.

this chimes in with the 4chan threat/hoax... arent you all suckers.

really? that is the argument we are making?

edit to add: i would love the jury results on this IF it was alerted on.

[CrispyQ]

1. The 'men' who are claiming that, are not real men, but pseudo-men that our culture has cultivated,

with it's victim blaming bullshit.

Our culture tells men that they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want. We are teaching our boys and young men that men don't have to exercise any self-control whatsoever. If you don't want to be a victim of men's lack of self-control, that responsibility falls on you, not them. You must control your actions, your words, your life. They are fee to do what they want.

It is such a childish way to view the world that I am baffled how so many think this is manly behavior.

Sea, I am just so sad for our species & where we are headed, both culturally, environmentally & most of all, spiritually. We seem to be a species at war with itself I feel, we will be unable to evolve socially until we deal with this cancer called patriarchy.

[seabeyond]

2. "It is such a childish way to view the world" no!. hostile and abusive way to view

the world.

there is nothing childish about it.

i am not sad either crispy. it is all true. it is a truth. but... these bottom feeders are creating our movement for us.... in their stupid, abusive, mean, nasty, violent, in our face

degrade, humiliate, shame.....

we need laws passed. this will accomplish that.

legal to fuckin up skirt shot

[CrispyQ]

3. Yes, it's hostile & abusive,

but it's also childish, in that "It's all about me. Me. Me. Me." That is like a two year old. I think these types are stunted, even though they grew into adults, they are mental toddlers.

[seabeyond]

4. i disagree. agree, it is a self absorded, ... but, i will not reduce it to a two yr old tantrum. nt

[CrispyQ]

5. okay.

[seabeyond]

6. lol. it is one i am standing on and not shifting from at all.

and i am doing it with three people i highly respect in all manner, yet... i am so fuggin dogmatic on this. in the sense of language matters.

so thank you

for

embracing, lol



regardless if you agree. i get that.

[Luminous Animal]

7. I agree with you sea. Not childish but a particular brand of manly.

[seabeyond]

8. the man card. and that is not just the men holding it up to get a stamp. but the man that holds to

his chest, knowing the wrong and staying quiet. or even participating. or simply dismissing, ignoring, being blind to.

[freshwest]

15. Media has celebrated the criminal mentality. It is defined by blaming victims.

And taking all you can, as fast as you can, no matter who gets damaged.

They should have known that someone would rob them. What did they expect me to do, it was too easy to pass up.

They should have known that someone would rape them. What did they expect me to do, when they made it easy for me.

They should have known that someone would beat them. What did they expect me to do, they know how I am.

They are operating at the level of a person who sees all things in life as their possession now, or soon to be theirs.

They resent those who say they should not have their rights stolen if it interferes with that theft.

Those call women who demand to not be in fear of rape in colleges, or being able to exercise bodily sovereignty at health clinics as being hateful to them.

Scalia said women have been enjoying 'special rights' when they ask for equal treatment. Sounds very much like another meme pushed by the RW.

There is a reason they want all regulation out of the way. They believe they are the rightful owners of the world and those who stand in their way are wrong. They will take down any woman, any government that dares to stand in the way.

[nomorenomore08]

25. "They believe they are the rightful owners of the world." Exactly, they're would-be tyrants. n/t

[seabeyond]

9. taking it a step further. how many women have put tape over their web camera?

because if someone hacks into our computer, and are able to get snap shots or worse of us in the privacy of our home, we know this is our fault also.

so.

how many women put a tape up?

a 21 yr old woman saw tape on mine and said.... oh, i do that too.

my boys though in all their late teenage wisdom, snort and snark.... how silly that concern is.

i got a new computer. put the tape up. and saw... it did nothing to block the web camera. i didnt know. my son hit some buttons and i am all like... but but but, i have tape. meh. did nothing. so i get a lack marker and scribble in.

check.

and still can see.

how many of you women even know that?

i didnt.

[jakeXT]

11. I deinstalled the driver and disabled the camera back in 2010 with my first laptop that had one

I remember the scandals back then

2nd Pa. student files suit alleging laptop spying

PHILADELPHIA — A second lawsuit has been filed against a suburban Philadelphia school district accused of spying on students through cameras in school-issued laptop computers.

Jalil Hasan, who graduated from Lower Merion High School last spring, says the school district activated remote-tracking software after he left the laptop at school Dec. 18.

The lawsuit filed Tuesday in federal court says the laptop was returned three days later, but the surveillance software remained activated for about two months.

The suit alleges that more than 1,000 photos were taken, 469 from the webcam and 543 screen shots.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20100728/us-laptops-spying-on-students/

But when it comes to technology, lenses and cameras are so small nowadays, I doubt a person can find them every time.


http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Cameras/b?ie=UTF8&node=12909791

[ismnotwasm]

10. It's a form of madness

I'm not excusing, but these guys who do this, and we use words like "entitled" for or other polite descriptions, have a social mental disease. That society continues to allow it, shows the the source of the disease.

[seabeyond]

12. maybe, but there is a vast number of them. and the ones not doing it but using end results

would have to be a part of that vastness. of what? mental disease? and the many men and women that dismiss it, ignore it, diminish it, accept it.... too are at a lower lever of that "mental disease".

i am not buying that.

[ismnotwasm]

13. A societal disease-- not a mental one

I put war in the same category, it's a rot from the enter to around the edges, and keeps human beings from reaching their potential. When there are active and joyful participants in it, we have a big problem. But you knew that

[seabeyond]

14. yes. thanks for correcting me. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

16. Have you gotten the Jury Results back?

I want to read the Alert Message and Juror Comments, please. Thanks.

[seabeyond]

17. i would like to, also. and no, i have not gotten it back. all in learning what is up, nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

18. but, someone did notify you that your OP had been alerted, correct?

[seabeyond]

19. no. it is all in the assumption tuesday. only an assumption and if it is,

can you please let me see.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. Sorry, I asked because of your edit in the OP. I was surprised to read it. I could be wrong but,

I don't think this OP was alerted and sent to Jury.

[seabeyond]

21. cool if it is not. again, only an assumption. as likely wrong as not. nt

[seabeyond]

22. i edited for clarity. thanks. nt

[nomorenomore08]

26. WTF is there to alert on? Even if they disagree, who did she call out or insult? n/t

[Tuesday Afternoon]

27. That is why I asked. I don't see it, either. n/t

[mountain grammy]

23. Well, no I don't, at my age when I go into the bathroom I'm usually on a dead run...

but, thanks for the post. Now I'll be looking around. I don't like being paranoid, but being cautious and observant is good.

[MadrasT]

24. Actually it has never even crossed my mind.

I totally don't give a fuck.

It would be stupid, juvenile, and annoying, but I refuse to be humiliated by idiots.

There is nothing humiliating about nudity or god forbid, peeing. It is natural.

YES IT IS WRONG TO RECORD OR PHOTOGRAPH SOMEONE LIKE THAT.

However, I choose to not give a fuck.

That does not mean I think other people shouldn't care.

I just do not personally have a single fuck to give about this.