i made a comment in an Op to a poster with a handful of posts, a man that comes

[seabeyond]

into our group to let us women know our place, with stupid rw material. men like this, that then are blocked from the group. and then men pointing out how many men are blocked from this group. as if it is our fault. right.

this has been on my mind recently. i am just going to copy and paste because i have been wanting to make an OP to state how i feel.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=52796

Boys are so very afraid today of losing their right to bully.

To freely be able to harass.

I have about walked from du. Administrations clear message of lack of respect for women, with comments and actions they have consistently made. In their mind, I am sure they see only the dislike for just a few loud mouth women. But, the reality truly is women and girls everywhere, saying no to the bullying and insults to shame us to silence, or at least the nice/well mannered girl.

Our voices on du has never been extreme and consistently reasonable. That pisses men off. How can they paint us as the bad guy, in that?

They do it with caricatures created and blatant re telling of history. Skinner created a site where almost daily a member from du goes to di and starts a nasty thread about feminists, ergo hof.

Redheads, panties, si, spider woman... Create ridiculous story telling so hof women can be ridiculed, shamed, insulted, bashed.

These are known voices on du. Our mirt. Our hosts in gd.

This is our continued discussion, in reason, example, experience the manner women are bullied to silence.

Feminist issues.

This is a clear example in the micro of a democratic progressive board.

I can and do conclude that men are so very fearful of losing their ability to bully, harass, silence women.

i get to be around a lot of upper teens, early 20's that share their life and experiences with me. it is so much fun, and i love seeing the "thinking" kids. my 20 yr old nephew brought over his gf the other day. 18. she is smart. she is a thinker and so not informed. lol. he likes young women and girls that think. he also wants to be taken care of. mommy'ed. and she... is a thinker. she asked me, what do i think about feminism. lol

oh. what a way to start.

a blast.

part of that conversation, which my nephew totally participated in, was exactly this. women and girls are fed up. men want to be a part of our lives, they simply have to buck up. because us women, have had it, dont need it, wont allow it.

men have the option of finding a woman that will play their games. but, it is not us.

very interesting. enlightening. and a true pleasure having this conversation with this 18 yr old, girl.

[LanternWaste]

1. I think DU's MRA contingent has found a rather half-witted tactic for self-oppression

"a man that comes into our group to let us women know our place..."

I think DU's MRA squad has found a rather half-witted tactic for self-oppression-- come into HoF, knowingly break the rules, and then righteously rant on DI how terribly oppressed they in fact, are.

[seabeyond]

2. +1. and those that want nothing more than to rant, will non thinkingly agree, just sure it is hofs

problem, see? they kicked another po, well intentioned man out of the group, again. sigh.... lol.

facts be damn.

[ismnotwasm]

3. LoL

That's hilarious, and probably spot on, the little chickenshits

[nomorenomore08]

7. I find it hilarious how some seem to think HoF wields such power.

It's so out of proportion as to seem paranoid.

[LanternWaste]

10. One previously tomb-stoned DUer posts often at DI regarding the power HoF has over him

One previously tomb-stoned DUer posts often at DI regarding the power HoF has over him and the control HoF has in the national dialogue. Bless his little heart.

[nomorenomore08]

11. Yeah, he should see a professional about that. And I'm only half kidding. n/t

[seaglass]

12. I am really pissed off that we are getting infiltrated by DIers - 5 of them in the last week

(or 1 x 5).

Two banned:
garf
Principled_Peter

3 needing the ban hammer:
julio_maracas
Niko
blueboy2727

They are so fucking obvious.

oh and loli phabay is back.

[seabeyond]

13. known duers that are mirt, gd host clearly stating they do not agree with EEOC laws.

should be basic democratic principle. all these years disrupting, derailing, and flamebait threads, and assuring us they were supporters of womens rights. except, .... well, now on the other board, they make clear that even work related environment is open to whatever male privilege desires it to be, and fuck EEOC.

ya. i take the clowns seriously. . they out themselves on DI. after years of disrupting on DU.

so, do tell. who is he. pm would work.

[seaglass]

15. OK, just have to say I am now 3 for 3...lol. It's always heartening to see misogynist trolls banned

Bye bye
julio_maracas
Niko
blueboy2727

[seabeyond]

16. Ya. This last time I got two hides for gently pointing out days, posts with Nikki. Flagged,

Administration felt it necessary I had a seven day time out. For calling out the troll... Even though I gently, civilly suggested while he was flaming one thread.

They have made clear if I do not talk about women's issues, I am left alone and I get no hides. My hides just drop off. But I dare to even participate in a women's threads full of trolls, I get a hide and adm will send me a message and make sure I experience a time out. I felt like a child being sent to my room with the two innocuous posts hidden, yet stern discipline.

And look. The dude was an obvious troll we all must endure.

Ya. They set me straight.

[seaglass]

17. Yes I was pissed off about the length of time you were flagged, I noticed. This place is really

losing its appeal to me, I have been logging on less and less. Seems a number of women are feeling the same way. Maybe I should go for 5 hides and get a forced vacation.

[seabeyond]

18. Ha. I just took note of the op, lol. Before, I simply went to your post, read and replied.

Now I see how fuggin appropriate this conversation is we are having now, in this old op. I had forgotten about the op.

Sigh..., yup.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. and don't forget the women who support these men for whatever reason.

[mercuryblues]

5. So did I

Let's just say, seeing as you would not go for my vat idea; you have relinquished your Queen of the potty mouth crown.

[seabeyond]

8. i know. i am the nice one. lol. i keep saying that, and it just is not believed, lol.

i listen to some of you women and say.... oh shit.

[Turn CO Blue]

6. Good grief, I feel ya. nt

[seabeyond]

9. hey turn, i gotta tell you...

welcome, and i so want to get to colorado and help ya all out, lol. or oregon or wa. but.... ya.

[seabeyond]

14. lets just add in the now "epic" science mans shirt to the list of poutage from feminists,

because one woman dare to state the shirt was inappropriate for work, and a whole lot of men jumped on her ass.

insulting, feminists

then the fight begins.

on what this is really about.

men. insisting women. shut the fuck up.

no more. and no less.