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KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:21 AM Jul 2015

Bernie fails at #SayHerName



It is a troubling sign that he's still doesn't understand - I sincerely find this unsettling in someone who claims to be a socialist.
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Bernie fails at #SayHerName (Original Post) KitSileya Jul 2015 OP
I'm not following you - how is this a failure? [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #1
Two of those names? Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #2
All three were victims of police brutality. Maedhros Jul 2015 #3
Note the hashtag. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #4
Just not seeing why it's so important to jump on Bernie for something like this. Maedhros Jul 2015 #5
? Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #6
You're looking for slights that just aren't there. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #7
But, does he even really know what his tweet is? Control-Z Jul 2015 #8
Your cavil is on the order of bvf Jul 2015 #9
You would think just reading the hashtag would give a clue, brer cat Jul 2015 #12
Bingo. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #13
They are feeling emboldened. JTFrog Jul 2015 #14
Absolutely, JTFrog! brer cat Jul 2015 #21
Please. You are imagining failure at this point. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #10
I don't think I am. I think it is a symptom of something that is wrong in Sanders' campaign. KitSileya Jul 2015 #15
Fair enough. Care to suggest where and how to get that cram course to him? Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #19
Well, not cancelling meetings with prominent Black activists would be a start. KitSileya Jul 2015 #22
It isn't even worth Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #11
Yeah, it seems like the partisan supporters are incapable of being critical. KitSileya Jul 2015 #16
How odd ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #17
I am wondering if it matters. KitSileya Jul 2015 #18
Yeah it pays lip service without context ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #20
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
3. All three were victims of police brutality.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:12 AM
Jul 2015

Can't say I can fault Bernie for feeling compassion for all of them.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. Just not seeing why it's so important to jump on Bernie for something like this.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jul 2015

Seems a little contrived.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
6. ?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:23 AM
Jul 2015

Why contrived? #Sayhername is supposed to be about elevating the Black female victims of police violence, and the recent death of another woman in police custody was the impetus for the recent protest at NN. Since Bernie was there, one could safely assume he should have figured out what the protest centered on and checked his tweet.

Control-Z

(15,684 posts)
8. But, does he even really know what his tweet is?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:45 AM
Jul 2015

He's got people helping him. But I don't believe he actually has a clue quite yet what it all means.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
9. Your cavil is on the order of
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:49 AM
Jul 2015

calling someone out on a typo.

It's too ridiculous to be called an argument.

brer cat

(26,511 posts)
12. You would think just reading the hashtag would give a clue,
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:36 AM
Jul 2015

and another might be the group this OP was posted in. Tone deafness is rampant on DU these days, or maybe just business as usual when it comes to women being marginalized.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
14. They are feeling emboldened.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jul 2015

Subjecting this site to mob rule has to be one of the worst decisions in the history of this website.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
10. Please. You are imagining failure at this point.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:03 AM
Jul 2015

This is the equivalent of bashing Mrs. Clinton for supporting marriage equality only from 2014.

The important thing here is: all candidates have the backs of women, PoC and LGBT. Casting aspersions about their commitment to these causes is to cynically play to their fear of being unheard. Surely you agree there is enough stress in this world already without unnecessary aspersions being cast?

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
15. I don't think I am. I think it is a symptom of something that is wrong in Sanders' campaign.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jul 2015

He doesn't understand the issues of a huge core demographic of the Democratic party. He clearly understands the economic issues that are front and center for the white (male) demographic, but when it comes to the issues that concern African Americans, he keeps stumbling. He really has lost touch with this core demographic, which isn't surprising, since it hasn't been a core demographic for him for the last 40 years. But if he wants to be the Democratic nominee for President, he needs a cram course asap, and he needs to understand that a big part of this core demographic sees that yeah, economic issues are important, but that they won't solve racism and sexism. Yeah, money will solve some of the problems, but Black men in Armani suits are still getting hassled, and women are still losing their reproductive rights.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
19. Fair enough. Care to suggest where and how to get that cram course to him?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

Because it sounds like something he would welcome.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
22. Well, not cancelling meetings with prominent Black activists would be a start.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jul 2015

Then he needs to hire his staff more diversely, and he must be willing to listen.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
11. It isn't even worth
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:18 AM
Jul 2015

commenting to stuff like this.

Been mostly quiet all these years, but this is becoming so beneath most people on DU

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
16. Yeah, it seems like the partisan supporters are incapable of being critical.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jul 2015

I would think that right now is the best time to point out how the candidates should do better, and tell their campaigns what issues they are failing on that their potential voters care about, rather than wait until the nominee is chosen, and see him or her stumble with huge parts of the core voters of the party. But that's just me, and those who have found their savior won't hear a word against him or her.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
18. I am wondering if it matters.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jul 2015

I mean, a candidate isn't on his own, he is surrounded by a team. The team is there to make him aware of issues he is weak on, and either Bernie has refused to work on it, or he has no one on his team that thinks this is an important enough issue to actually engage in it. Either alternative does not bode well.

ismnotwasm

(42,478 posts)
20. Yeah it pays lip service without context
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jul 2015

I mean, why bother?

(And before I get attracked by Sanders supporters, I don't have a problem with him per se, I simply support the candidate I think is most qualified.)

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