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billh58

(6,642 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 11:41 AM Dec 2016

America Under Fire

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Despite the many factors that may contribute to rates of gun violence in a particular community, there is a robust and growing body of research that demonstrates an undeniable correlation between certain strong gun laws and lower rates of gun violence. A 2013 study by a group of public health researchers examined the relationship between the overall strength of a state’s gun laws and rates of gun deaths in the state and found that states with stronger gun laws had lower rates of gun deaths than states with weaker gun laws. A 2011 study that analyzed state-level data drew similar conclusions: Firearm-related deaths were significantly lower in states that had enacted laws to ban assault weapons, require trigger locks, and mandate safe storage of guns. Two studies led by Daniel Webster at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health demonstrated the impact of state laws requiring a permit—and background check—before an individual can purchase a handgun. When Connecticut implemented this requirement, gun-related homicides in the state fell 40 percent; when Missouri eliminated this requirement, gun homicides increased 26 percent. And research conducted by Everytown for Gun Safety, a nonprofit gun violence prevention advocacy group, found that states that require universal background checks for all handgun sales have significantly lower rates of intimate partner gun homicides of women, law enforcement officers killed by handguns, and gun-related suicides.

In 2013, the Center for American Progress conducted a study to assess the correlation between the relative strength or weakness of a state’s gun laws, as measured by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, and rates of gun violence in the state across 10 categories of gun violence or gun-related crimes. Consistent with the research cited above, the CAP study found a strong correlation between strong gun laws and lower rates of gun violence.

In the 3.5 years since that study, a number of things have changed that warrant revisiting that research. Many states have acted to strengthen their gun laws: Since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, eight states have enacted laws to require universal background checks—bringing the total number of states that have enacted such laws to 18—and 20 states have strengthened their laws to help keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers. Unfortunately, other states have taken the opposite approach, loosening laws regarding where guns may be carried and weakening or eliminating concealed carry permit requirements. In addition, improvements made in the collection of data relating to gun violence now allow more precise tracking of events such as mass shootings and fatal shootings by law enforcement officers.

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Once again, CAP finds a strong and significant link between weak gun laws and high rates of gun violence. The 10 states with the weakest gun laws collectively have an aggregate level of gun violence that is 3.2 times higher than the 10 states with the strongest gun laws. And while this correlation does not prove a causal relationship between stronger gun laws and fewer gun deaths, the link between stronger gun laws and lower rates of gun violence cannot be ignored. As the gun debate continues to churn, policymakers at all levels of government must take action to close dangerous loopholes and enact strong gun laws to protect all of the nation’s communities from this national disgrace.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/reports/2016/10/11/145830/america-under-fire/


The gun violence epidemic in the United States is, as the last paragraph above says, a national disgrace. Trump, and his ultra right-wing gun lobby co-criminals (and those apologists who support him) are poised to attempt to make it worse.

As with all other Liberal efforts in this battle against right wing extremism, the fight for sensible gun control measures must be carried out at the city, county, and state levels of government where we have been successful.
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America Under Fire (Original Post) billh58 Dec 2016 OP
"this correlation does not prove a causal relationship", the ever present response to any study that flamin lib Dec 2016 #1

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
1. "this correlation does not prove a causal relationship", the ever present response to any study that
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:06 PM
Dec 2016

links guns to death. "You can't PROVE a casual relationship between strong gun laws and less death." Of course not, that's proving a negative. I can't show that THIS person wasn't shot because, well, they WERE'T SHOT!

You can show a CORRELATION which links the two things. More guns with less supervision of who has them means more people get shot. Period.

More cars on a freeway means more car accidents. I can't PROVE that any individual accident was caused by the increase in traffic but bet your ass as the traffic increases so do car accidents.

It is hard to beleive that gunners can't make the connection but then the great oracle Lott wrote a book titled More Guns Less Crime so it must be true. The gun lobby told them so and EVERYTHING that proves that their fetish is a good thing is believed.

NRA lied and they believe.

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