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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 08:08 AM Mar 2022

The "Old West", eh. Guns were outlawed back then...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/

Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West
Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business

Dodge City, Kansas, formed a municipal government in 1878. According to Stephen Aron, a professor of history at UCLA, the first law passed was one prohibiting the carry of guns in town, likely by civic leaders and influential merchants who wanted people to move there, invest their time and resources, and bring their families. Cultivating a reputation of peace and stability was necessary, even in boisterous towns, if it were to become anything more transient than a one-industry boom town.

Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.” Carrying any kind of weapon, guns or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.

The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s. While a few citizens challenged the bans in court, most lost. Winkler, in his book Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, points to an 1840 Alabama court that, in upholding its state ban, ruled it was a state's right to regulate where and how a citizen could carry, and that the state constitution's allowance of personal firearms “is not to bear arms upon all occasions and in all places.”

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“People were allowed to own guns, and everyone did own guns [in the West], for the most part,” says Winkler. “Having a firearm to protect yourself in the lawless wilderness from wild animals, hostile native tribes, and outlaws was a wise idea. But when you came into town, you had to either check your guns if you were a visitor or keep your guns at home if you were a resident.”

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Adams wrote of what happened to the few who wouldn't comply with frontier gun law:

“The buffalo hunters and range men have protested against the iron rule of Dodge's peace officers, and nearly every protest has cost human life. … Most cowboys think it's an infringement on their rights to give up shooting in town, and if it is, it stands, for your six-shooters are no match for Winchesters and buckshot; and Dodge's officers are as game a set of men as ever faced danger.”


More good stuff at the link.


https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/KXv7UpnUMgXTq2dg11SwQOCcd_k=/fit-in/1072x0/

The sign you can barely read says "Carrying of Fire Arms Strictly Prohibited" Photo is from Kansas Historical Society, probably Dodge City
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The "Old West", eh. Guns were outlawed back then... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Mar 2022 OP
It made sense then and it would make sense now except the Gun Vultures are succeeding AndyS Mar 2022 #1
I'm so old I've checked my six gun at the bar. JohnnyRingo Mar 2022 #2

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
1. It made sense then and it would make sense now except the Gun Vultures are succeeding
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 08:54 AM
Mar 2022

in buying enough legislators to put concealed/open carry without training, background check or any reasonable duty or responsibility in almost half of our states AGAINST THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.

JohnnyRingo

(19,428 posts)
2. I'm so old I've checked my six gun at the bar.
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 09:51 AM
Mar 2022

When me and my buddies went target shooting and chose to have a couple beers afterwards we'd undo our holsters and turn them over for safe keeping behind the bar. Parts of Ohio was wild west for a long time, but even then it was considered polite.

My friends didn't need to carry a Colt 45 to be bad asses back then.

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