A question for the ones pushing for Warren to be Biden running mate

[question everything]

First, shouldn't she endorse him, first?

I hope that he has enough self respect not to beg someone who has not.

But even if this bit of obstacle gets out of the way:

Neither she nor Harris, perhaps others, are not the kind who would be second to anyone. This is why they ran to be president in the first place.

Though, when there are more than 20 running: Republicans in 2016 and Democrats now, many just want to get into the headlines to secure a cabinet position. Or to sell books..

And one would hope that Warren has her own self respect to after asking in what primaries Biden was running, to not now change her opinion and to decide that he was right.

In general, nominees do not choose running mates from previous rivals, certainly not aggressive ones who would overshadow them.

Reagan chose papa Bush because he was low key.

Similarly Obama selected Biden in 2008 because Biden dropped after Iowa and because, yes, Biden is a low key which does on occasion aggravate many supporters. Also, Biden's vast experience in foreign affairs which Obama lacked.

As I have posted before: Biden, while does not need any advice for me, should select someone who can be in a lockstep with him so that if he does not finish his term and, no doubt, he is well aware of it, will not try to then start his/her own ideas.

Bill Clinton, a young 45 year old candidate said how strange it felt to select a running mate, like picking Hillary's next husband.

[pattyloutwo]

1. I'm in that camp

I think Biden respects her smarts, can benefit from her policy writing, and knows he’s a one term, so he wants to choose someone who will be effective and can take on the presidency successfully. She’s more progressive, but she’s willing to compromise. I think she’s the best choice.

[blm]

26. I don't push for her as VP because she SHOULD be Treasury Sec.

if not President.

That said, Biden wanted her to run with hm in 2016, so all the mewling that they don’t sync up is nonsense bullshitting from the underinformed.

And health wise, Warren has more physical energy than most 40year olds, and one of the most agile minds in government today.

[Lithos]

2. I do not think he will pick Warren

Even though she was my choice in the primary, and as much as I would like to be wrong in this case, I do not see Biden picking her. I personally expect someone like Lujan (New Mexico), Masto (Nevada) or Klobuchar.

[Iggo]

3. Anyone he picks is fine with me.

No PUMA bullshit from my corner.

[Chainfire]

4. I will tell you what I think,

Biden is going to run with a woman, I think that is a given. Unless Biden chose Sara Ubetcha Palin as a running mate, it won't matter who runs with him. The right is going to support trump, the left is going to support whoever runs against him.

The VP selection is chump change in this game. I hope that the old boy chooses a woman that is fully capable of running the country in case something happens to him; there are a lot of good choices.

Alright, I said it, now I am putting on my asbestos drawers....bring it.

[Iggo]

5. I'm with you.

[Grins]

6. Agree with much of this...

(Except LBJ at his height accepted the VP role under Kennedy. And lucky us he did!)

Harris and Warren should stay in Senate.

Harris, soon enough, will be Calif.’s senior Senator.
With Senate in D hands she could be Chairperson of Judiciary!

And Warren, with her experience and seniority - will chair finance committee.

With both of them in those positions: “Oh. My. God!!!”

So for VP under your conditions...?

In another time I’d have said no - to Andrew Cuomo.
Not now.

[customerserviceguy]

7. Well put.

Neither Sens. Warren or Harris are right for the ticket. Joe needs someone who will not make him look like second place. One of the things that minimized John McCain was the way that conservatives treated Sarah Palin as the rockstar.

Joe Biden needs someone who can benefit from the experience of serving as VP in his administration, who will be complimentary to what he needs to do to reunite this nation. Such an apprenticeship would make that person a superb President in her own right when it becomes her turn.

[Arkansas Granny]

8. Realistically, whoever he picks needs to be young.

If he chooses a running mate who is already in their 70's, it's unlikely that she/he would be in a position to run for the office after Joe's term is completed.

I would like to see Democrats leading the country for years to come. Republicans have become toxic.

[left-of-center2012]

10. Agreed.

And, as Biden himself has said,
with the experience to step into the presidency
at a moment's notice if necessary.

[Thekaspervote]

13. Yes absolutely.. someone younger

[question everything]

19. Yes, agree with you. I was not thinking of the age criteria

being senior myself. But we should not have a 70 year old running mate with a 77 year old nominee.

[blm]

27. Name one person in DC with more physical energy AND a more agile

mind than Elizabeth Warren.

If Warren would be too old at 75 to become president in 2025 then what are we saying....that a man can be capable at 79, but, a woman at 75 cannot?

[Arkansas Granny]

29. I'm trying to be realistic about the expected lifespan of people in that age group.

Frankly, I would have preferred a younger candidate this year, but that didn't happen. That's why I hope Biden picks a running mate who has a long future ahead of them.

[mwooldri]

9. I don't think having ran for president is a disqualifier for a VP slot.

Biden ran for president before - in the year Michael Dukakis got selected.

And as for Elizabeth Warren being VP - I like the idea because she has a ton of plans ready to go on a variety of things. She would do great as a VP. Katherine Harris, Amy Klobuchar, many others - would make great vice presidents.

I'm going to trust Joe and his team will make the right pick. My political wet dream would be Michelle Obama as VP, but Donald Trump is more likely to walk on the moon by Christmas.

[left-of-center2012]

11. "she has a ton of plans ready to go"

Well, it'll be Biden planning for the Biden administration.

[mwooldri]

24. Nothing stopping Biden from picking one of her plans.

Yes it would be a Biden administration. Good leaders recognize good plans when they see them.

[Drunken Irishman]

22. Biden also ran for president in 2008.

[BidenBacker]

12. My gut says Biden won't pick Warren for VP

But that's fine with me. I wouldn't mind seeing Joe put her in charge of the SEC or something similar.

Liz can track down all those new trillions of buckaroos that Wall Street just extorted from us again.

[relayerbob]

14. He won't pick Warren

Nor would she accept. Not the best choice for VP. She has much more authority in her current role, plus a GOP governor would likely replace her with a gopper. Bad choice demographically and ideologically.

Not an issue, IMO

[Hortensis]

15. No. And whoever might be "pushing" Warren is not us.

We are supporters and voters, not members of Biden's and Warren's circles of influence.

Please understand, insiders in each campaign know FAR more than anyone else does. WE are clueless. Reading a few articles that may or may not have a nugget of value does not make us informed, and we have far more blanks than otherwise, lacking almost all information necessary to understand this situation.

Anyway, if Biden-Warren is a possibility, it will follow much the same pattern as Clinton-Warren did. And the pros all know what that is.

[Dem4Life1102]

17. Good point

Especially

In general, nominees do not choose running mates from previous rivals,

Looking back it’s only about 30% of the time.

Truth is none of the former candidates make sense for the VP slot. They are all from blue states and won’t help flip a swing state.

[andym]

18. Biden needs a woman he believes could pull America out of an economic depression

should anything happen to him. That will be his prime consideration I think. Only someone very much suited for that will be the pick. She'll need to be a leader, understand economics, be creative and sympathetic. The question is who. Warren would certainly fit the requirements, as would some others.

[nini]

20. No.. she didn't win her own state

Bye Felicia.

[rusty fender]

21. Jeebus! It doesn't matter

who we think Biden should pick as his VP! None of us has a fucking say in his decision

Just wait till he chooses an then proceed

[blm]

28. ✔️

[Green Line]

23. There are a couple of reasons she shouldn't be the pick

She's 70, we need someone younger
She finished 3rd in Massachusetts, if she can't win her own state, how does she help?

[Tweedy]

25. Disagree

Senator Warren raises former VP Biden's polls against this president.

President Obama picked VP Biden in part because Joe Biden was the number 2 pick for most Iowa Obama voters.

Joe Biden was not a back seat walk flower by any stretch of anyone's imagination.

Picking a strong nominee signals Joe Biden's strength in his own character, once more the opposite of this president.

VP Biden needs to pick a candidate who can hit hard with facts. There are few better at that then Elizabeth Warren.