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Rhiannon12866

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Fri Jan 3, 2025, 04:45 AM Jan 3

Is the Economy Of Fascism The End Of Democracy Around the World? - Thom Hartmann



Fascism has its own special economy and you are on the menu. Caller Dave laments an economy shaped by authoritarianism, corporate greed, and global conflicts, expressing cynicism about political solutions and warning of psychological attacks on liberals.

Despite dire outlooks, he envisions a utopian dream of a liberal paradise.

Do you agree with Larry's claim that he will never call again? Let us know in the comments. - Aired on 01/02/2025.



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Is the Economy Of Fascism The End Of Democracy Around the World? - Thom Hartmann (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jan 3 OP
A system with no guardrails or proper government will result in revolution. applegrove Jan 3 #1
Gatekeepers make decisions at choke points bucolic_frolic Jan 3 #4
I'm a balanced and thoughtful person but... Bread and Circuses Jan 3 #2
Addendum - In the future, some may have their own Masada whilst others chain themselves Bread and Circuses Jan 3 #3

applegrove

(123,888 posts)
1. A system with no guardrails or proper government will result in revolution.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 05:03 AM
Jan 3
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/31/opinion/trump-assault-government-americans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mE4.5Aex.iXq99N3_sFZd&smid=re-nytopinion


"SNIP..........

But a slew of self-aggrandizing leaders has taken advantage of rising inequality, cultural conflicts and changing demography to grab power. The result has been a steep decline in the government’s ability to provide essential services such as health care, education and safety.

Compared with the weak feudal states that preceded them, patrimonial regimes such as the Dutch Empire in the 17th century and czarist Russia in the 18th and 19th centuries were good at extracting revenue and making war, but otherwise inept. They were capable of coercion, but they could not provide the predictable enforcement of laws essential to modern capitalism.

The arbitrary decision-making that is typical of patrimonialism sometimes even resulted in the disintegration of the state itself. Czar Nicholas II of Russia could decide in the middle of World War I to take over direct command of Russian troops, leaving his capital city in the hands of his wife and her confidant, the faith healer Grigori Rasputin. Within a year and a half, the Russian Empire collapsed in defeat and revolution, leaving a power vacuum that was ultimately filled by Vladimir Lenin’s Bolshevik Party.

Americans love to hate the state. About half of our citizenry now believes that there is really a “deep state” of shadowy power brokers who pull the strings of our government behind the scenes. But as annoying and inefficient as bureaucracies sometimes are, all of us depend on them to live what we now consider normal lives.

..........SNIP"

bucolic_frolic

(47,933 posts)
4. Gatekeepers make decisions at choke points
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 06:21 AM
Jan 3

If you don't know the law or the lingo, you're vulnerable to arbitrary outcomes.

Bread and Circuses

(316 posts)
2. I'm a balanced and thoughtful person but...
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 05:44 AM
Jan 3

But as I watched the Felon avoid prosecution for seditious conspiracy, along with his co-conspirators, I had to take a harder look. I surveyed the global political and economic landscape and the destabilization of democratic countries. Additionally, there is a growing number of uprisings, terrorism, wars and suspicious attacks by unknown actors.

At the same time, the concentration of billions of dollars among a few corporations and a handful of individuals increased as these people and companies gobbled up assets, natural resources, and political influence.

As a rational person, it became clearer that what may have begun as greed and a fight to control diminishing natural resources had morphed into an effective strategy to use misinformation, lies, and fear to wrest control of currency markets, political institutions and media from the public square straight into the pockets of a violent and brutal criminal cabal.

I don’t think they are unified, there is jealousy and competition. But their contempt for humanity binds them.

It will happen. They have sewn the seeds of distrust and hate against democratic principles and fairness quite effectively. By tying nationalism to Christianity in the west, the populace goose-stepped to the drumbeat.

We know some of their names. The agenda is to end biological humans, with our freedom and conscience.

Yes, this seems crazy.

If I let my mind wander, it comes up with some wild scenarios.

I hope I’m wrong. I’m not hiding and I’m not going to fall in line. I will do all that I can to organize and support. We can put up a good fight. Perhaps delay the worst of the inevitable. I will maintain compassion and respect for others and try to be a beacon of light to offer refuge and comfort.

I’ll end here, I have more to say. If anyone is listening or has a similar assessment, please reply.

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