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Bluetus

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41. Which murder are you referring to?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:50 PM
Dec 13

Last edited Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:44 AM - Edit history (1)

The murder of the CEO or the murders carried out by the company through the denial of treatment, therapy, and medicine?

NOBODY is justifying the cold-blooded shooting of anybody. But we are demanding that while Mangione is prosecuted, there must also be accountability for the deaths caused by this CEO and his company.

And let's understand this isn't the end of it. Quite the opposite. Perhaps people would feel differently if UHC had a panel of medical experts, a "death panel" as Sarah Palin would say, making these life-and-death decisions to withhold care and treatment. Perhaps.

But that is not what is happening. These denial-of-care decisions are made by low-level clerks with no medical expertise. And it gets worse. The company is moving to use AI to make these life-ending decisions entirely by program. In other words, this is even worse than the "death panels" that Palin imagined.

I know many people are baffled about the unexpected reaction to the shooting of the CEO. Dems need to understand that Americans are fed up with these huge corporations and the entitled executives that are profiting off the misery of others. There is very much an "Eat the rich" atmosphere developing, and Dems would be wise to get out in front of that parade. While nobody is condoning simply gunning down these assholes in cold blood, we should be demanding accountability for their actions. When corporations take actions that kill people, or brainwash people with disinformation to elect more corporate enablers, their officers should be held CRIMINALLY responsible with harsh prison terms. And when they rip off consumers, they should be taxed out of existence. We should be the party of "Eat the Rich". There is a huge hunger for such a populist movement.

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So the murder was really self defense? FBaggins Dec 13 #1
Silly. H2O Man Dec 13 #2
Self defense has to be immediate. NutmegYankee Dec 13 #4
You're purposely twisting and lying about her comments ThePartyThatListens Dec 13 #8
Not at all FBaggins Dec 13 #11
What do you mean? Quiet Em Dec 13 #14
"This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but..." FBaggins Dec 13 #32
Did you even listen to every word she said? Quiet Em Dec 13 #37
I saw no need to FBaggins Dec 13 #39
Her language was not the problem Quiet Em Dec 13 #42
"The murder was a direct cause of the conversation that followed." FBaggins Dec 13 #45
AOC and most people are not validating Mangione's motives. Quiet Em Dec 13 #46
Well, I think making a medical decision, or rather a financial decision, Susan Calvin Dec 14 #52
Assuming intentions lildDemz Dec 14 #57
She's trying to explain how it got to this point and that we shouldn't be shocked. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 13 #20
No. She's saying the murder brought about a discussion Quiet Em Dec 13 #10
Please stop. ShazzieB Dec 13 #16
Not buying what you're selling because she said nothing of the sort. Autumn Dec 13 #29
Which side are you on? Emile Dec 13 #30
Answer is obvious: Not the Democratic side. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 13 #33
What is the Democratic side? PennRalphie Dec 14 #58
The anti-murder side FBaggins Dec 13 #38
Well, if what some health insurance companies have been documented as doing Susan Calvin Dec 14 #53
a quick google search showed me that misinterpreting AOC is a hot topic in the right wing sphere. Quiet Em Dec 13 #43
Which murder are you referring to? Bluetus Dec 13 #41
They are not connected Cirsium Dec 13 #44
your reading comprehension skills azureblue Dec 14 #55
She was ForgedCrank Dec 13 #3
I disagree... Think. Again. Dec 13 #5
You are misquoting her. soldierant Dec 13 #13
This is exactly correct! ShazzieB Dec 13 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Dec 13 #23
Well I'll say it: denying treatment to people with health problems is an act of violence. Voltaire2 Dec 13 #47
I'm inclined soldierant Dec 14 #61
So you tell me (true story) Horse with no Name Dec 13 #18
She's becoming one of my favorites. BannonsLiver Dec 13 #6
Has always been one of my favorites Arazi Dec 13 #34
K&R orangecrush Dec 13 #7
It's emotional/psychological violence. patphil Dec 13 #9
+1 dalton99a Dec 13 #12
HELL Yeah! calimary Dec 13 #19
It is well known Farmer-Rick Dec 13 #27
rejection of claims is real bad framing, it is frequently denial of treatment. Voltaire2 Dec 13 #48
That It Does. GB_RN Dec 14 #54
There are places on the internet that sell "GOP - Greed Over People" bumper stickers. patphil Dec 14 #59
Thanks For That GB_RN Dec 14 #60
Eating the rich may be the only working alternative left for some of us. Ford_Prefect Dec 13 #15
Secrets in the sauce! questionseverything Dec 13 #21
can I just compost them? I'm vegan. nt. Voltaire2 Dec 15 #65
K&R ReRe Dec 13 #17
so if repukes use the same logic when shooting abortion doctors Skittles Dec 13 #24
The word that came to mind when I read this post was "disingenuous." ShazzieB Dec 13 #26
Be in mind, UHC employees have been threatened with firing if they don't toe the party line. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 13 #28
well that there is the poster child for false equivalence. nt. Voltaire2 Dec 13 #49
why? Skittles Dec 13 #50
or their warped logic azureblue Dec 14 #56
who thinks it is fine to kill people by denying coverage Skittles Dec 14 #63
" I deny you the privilege to live, but I'll take your money" is no better than shooting someone in the back. Hellbound Hellhound Dec 13 #25
Well the way this works is as follows BeyondGeography Dec 13 #31
Playing goody two shoes sure isn't working malaise Dec 13 #36
THIS malaise Dec 13 #35
AOC rocks. Celerity Dec 13 #40
It is indeed often a life-threatening act of violence, when it isn't a sentence to a life of pain and misery. Martin68 Dec 14 #51
It's not violence as much as greed. LeftInTX Dec 14 #62
This woman has a BIG future! I hope I live a long time and am able to watch and support her, liberalla Dec 15 #64
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