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In reply to the discussion: AOC Explains How Americans View Denied Insurance Claims 'As an Act of Violence' [View all]Cirsium
(1,158 posts)44. They are not connected
The expressions of public outrage were triggered by the murder. Otherwise, there is no connection such as the one you are trying to make.
No one is trying to sell the idea that the murder was self-defense. You must know that.
I agree with this:
In my 35 years as a filmmaker, have I said or done anything that has implied I condone murder? As a teenager during the Vietnam War, I was required to register for the draft at the local draft board. There was a box on the form asking me if I had a problem with killing Vietnamese people. Actually, it just asked me to check the box if I was going to file for Conscientious Objector status meaning, if given the opportunity, would I swear that I would never kill a Vietnamese person. I checked the box. Throughout my adult life, I have repeatedly stated that Im a pacifist. In fact, I have never struck another human in my life. Not even on the playground. I was taller and bigger than the other boys so they mostly left me alone. Usually I was the one who would try to stop the bullies from picking on the smaller kids. When theyd start swinging at me, I would wrap my arms around them, pinning their arms to their sides in my human straitjacket and not letting them go until they stopped.
Heres a sad statistic for you: In the United States, we have a whopping 1.4 million people employed with the job of DENYING HEALTH CARE, vs only 1 million doctors in the entire country! Thats all you need to know about America. We pay more people to deny care than to give it. 1 million doctors to give care, 1.4 million brutes in cubicles doing their best to stop doctors from giving that care. If the purpose of health care is to keep people alive, then what is the purpose of DENYING PEOPLE HEALTH CARE? Other than to kill them? I definitely condemn that kind of murder. And in fact, I already did. In 2007, I made a film SICKO about Americas bloodthirsty, profit-driven and murderous health insurance system. It was nominated for an Oscar. Its the second-largest grossing film of my career (after Fahrenheit 9/11). And over the past 15 years, millions upon millions of people have watched it including, apparently, Luigi Mangione.
After the killing of the CEO of United HealthCare, the largest of these billion dollar insurance companies, there was an immediate OUTPOURING of anger toward the health insurance industry. Some people have stepped forward to condemn this anger. I am not one of them.
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/a-manifesto-against-for-profit-health
Heres a sad statistic for you: In the United States, we have a whopping 1.4 million people employed with the job of DENYING HEALTH CARE, vs only 1 million doctors in the entire country! Thats all you need to know about America. We pay more people to deny care than to give it. 1 million doctors to give care, 1.4 million brutes in cubicles doing their best to stop doctors from giving that care. If the purpose of health care is to keep people alive, then what is the purpose of DENYING PEOPLE HEALTH CARE? Other than to kill them? I definitely condemn that kind of murder. And in fact, I already did. In 2007, I made a film SICKO about Americas bloodthirsty, profit-driven and murderous health insurance system. It was nominated for an Oscar. Its the second-largest grossing film of my career (after Fahrenheit 9/11). And over the past 15 years, millions upon millions of people have watched it including, apparently, Luigi Mangione.
After the killing of the CEO of United HealthCare, the largest of these billion dollar insurance companies, there was an immediate OUTPOURING of anger toward the health insurance industry. Some people have stepped forward to condemn this anger. I am not one of them.
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/a-manifesto-against-for-profit-health
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AOC Explains How Americans View Denied Insurance Claims 'As an Act of Violence' [View all]
HereForTheParty
Dec 13
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She's trying to explain how it got to this point and that we shouldn't be shocked.
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 13
#20
a quick google search showed me that misinterpreting AOC is a hot topic in the right wing sphere.
Quiet Em
Dec 13
#43
Well I'll say it: denying treatment to people with health problems is an act of violence.
Voltaire2
Dec 13
#47
There are places on the internet that sell "GOP - Greed Over People" bumper stickers.
patphil
Dec 14
#59
Be in mind, UHC employees have been threatened with firing if they don't toe the party line. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Dec 13
#28
" I deny you the privilege to live, but I'll take your money" is no better than shooting someone in the back.
Hellbound Hellhound
Dec 13
#25