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Yavin4

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7. Sad, but it's reality.

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Sun Dec 15, 2024, 05:44 PM

Dec 15

There are voters who will never vote for a Democrat no matter what. It's ingrained from birth.

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In some states, the Democratic party's brand is so toxic, that it may be a good idea to run independent candidates [View all] Yavin4 Dec 15 OP

Do they want the Democratic Party and Democratic donors to help finance and support their run Quiet Em Dec 15 #1

They would have to fund their own campaigns. Yavin4 Dec 15 #4

and I assume run on the Independent ballot line. Quiet Em Dec 15 #6

Right, but no Democratic challenger. Yavin4 Dec 15 #8

Oh. That's not going to happen. Quiet Em Dec 15 #11

So, you would rather have a Republican in office? Yavin4 Dec 15 #14

Democrats are not going to abandon some States so that this new party Quiet Em Dec 15 #23

It's not a new party. Yavin4 Dec 15 #28

It already happened in Nebraska - Dan Osborn got 47% of the vote HereForTheParty Dec 15 #30

Democrats put millions into helping Osborn in the final weeks. Quiet Em Dec 15 #36

Hide and Run strategy for anti-Democratic candidates delisen Dec 16 #56

I do not think the national has been doing much for some really good Arkansas candidates. LiberalArkie Dec 15 #35

Wrong. LisaM Dec 15 #2

Not in a lot of states. We're talking deep red states like OH. n/t Yavin4 Dec 15 #5

It won't move the needle JustAnotherGen Dec 16 #55

Very sad OP. Irish_Dem Dec 15 #3

Sad, but it's reality. Yavin4 Dec 15 #7

I'm not sure you understand what your OP means. Irish_Dem Dec 15 #9

Enlighten me. n/t Yavin4 Dec 15 #12

Far too ForgedCrank Dec 15 #39

I agree. Yavin4 Dec 15 #45

100% nailed it DeepWinter Dec 16 #52

Exactly. Patton French Dec 16 #53

The propaganda is so strong in some states RANDYWILDMAN Dec 15 #10

So we're going to fix stupid by not running Democratic candidates? dem4decades Dec 15 #27

I disagree. Buzz cook Dec 15 #13

Dems would have to run MAGAs in my state, because our party is so toxic here. Bo Zarts Dec 15 #15

Independents don't win unless they align with the party that dominates the state. Self Esteem Dec 15 #16

My answer to you. Yavin4 Dec 15 #21

Your answers are not sufficient. Self Esteem Dec 16 #58

Also... Yavin4 Dec 15 #22

A lot of "independents" just won't admit Captain Zero Dec 15 #46

So? Self Esteem Dec 16 #59

Dan Osborn said he wouldn't caucus with Democrats HereForTheParty Dec 15 #33

If the independent candidate is a strong progressive, then the Dems won't run an opposition candidate. Yavin4 Dec 15 #48

And he still lost. Self Esteem Dec 16 #60

Welcome to Michigan JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 15 #17

We're not talking about states like MI. Yavin4 Dec 15 #20

True, MI is not deep red. Yet. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 16 #50

Giving away all the votes from those who vote straight ticket too MichMan Dec 15 #32

When a billion-plus and an incredibly qualified presidential candidate doesn't do it, I don't know what will. Noel Kums Dec 15 #18

Interesting point. Raven123 Dec 15 #19

Exactly. That's the point. Yavin4 Dec 15 #25

So we'd be a two party Democratic Party. BunkieBandit Dec 15 #38

Y'all really can't see how this blows up in our faces, can you? Blue_Tires Dec 15 #34

No Raven123 Dec 15 #42

Thank goodness you're not running the party, then Blue_Tires Dec 15 #49

I don't know how much energy I have to put into it The Wandering Harper Dec 15 #24

How about run as a fake Repug and switch to Dem once elected? JoseBalow Dec 15 #26

Seems to be all the rage in Republican circles Bettie Dec 16 #57

I think the Republican party is equally toxic in other states nt doc03 Dec 15 #29

Post removed Post removed Dec 15 #31

K&R P.C.L.D. Dec 15 #47

No, no, NO!! BunkieBandit Dec 15 #37

If the candidate refuses to pledge to caucus with Democrats, I always think it is a big deal risk that they may join tritsofme Dec 15 #40

In a Coke/Pepsi America telling people to vote for RC Cola is not good for the big brand. ZonkerHarris Dec 15 #41

We're not toxic liberalmediaaddict Dec 15 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Ars Longa Dec 15 #44

im kinda thinking it the repugs that need to go indy samnsara Dec 16 #51

Ceding linguistucs to Repugs is not a winning strategy sunnybrook Dec 16 #54

Bernie. Again ismnotwasm Dec 16 #61

There is a difference between Independent BunkieBandit Dec 16 #62

Could be, at least here hurl Dec 16 #63