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10. Good grief!

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Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:10 PM

Dec 15

Yet, somehow, youngsters can pay attention to You Tube for extended periods of time.

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Yikes. Result of texting and?--Companies are firing Gen Z employees soon after hiring them. [View all] hlthe2b Dec 15 OP

I personally think that a lot more time and emphasis should be spent on English composition courses Walleye Dec 15 #1

Our educational system is to blame for the lack of reading and writing in schools. rich7862 Dec 16 #129

21st century skills exboyfil Dec 16 #132

Absolutely. Writing essays, the thought process it develops, and by typing them on a keyboard... brush Dec 17 #176

It's even worse than that. snot Dec 16 #142

Would that be about Neil Bush's company Ignite*? (W's crooked brother) Attilatheblond Dec 17 #165

Sorry, I didn't catch that part of the story. snot Dec 17 #173

Apparently the high-level administrators never learned to not just read, but to think critically... brush Dec 17 #177

The problem is they want to text everything DenaliDemocrat Dec 16 #149

And in the details of "old math." Too many people do not know how to work with percentages. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 17 #166

I've been pondering for awhile bucolic_frolic Dec 15 #2

And a lack of respect for institutional knowledge. LisaM Dec 15 #8

Definitely! /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 15 #21

So much this! Horse with no Name Dec 17 #168

That has not been my experience. Happy Hoosier Dec 16 #108

And the young professionals of 30-40 years ago VMA131Marine Dec 16 #128

I love this... appmanga Dec 15 #3

WTH? SheltieLover Dec 15 #7

Back in the 1980s, H2O Man Dec 15 #26

An acquaintance of mine went to the pizza place Demobrat Dec 15 #33

I think of these H2O Man Dec 15 #41

I had nothing Demobrat Dec 15 #42

At such time, H2O Man Dec 15 #60

"where he tells his girlfriend's brother he has 'an appointment on earth'" snot Dec 16 #144

🙄 Rebl2 Dec 16 #123

Bringing parents to an interview is a new level of pathetic. Noel Kums Dec 15 #15

No kidding! calimary Dec 15 #25

And who the hell are these parents who would agree... 3catwoman3 Dec 15 #28

My God. Are these parents actually sitting in on the interview and prompting their kids answers? brush Dec 16 #86

I still remember in 1985, I moved to NYC for a job and was looking for an apartment... bsiebs Dec 15 #29

I still wouldn't live bamagal62 Dec 15 #57

I lived at 10th St and Avenue A in 1972 Lulu KC Dec 15 #69

I lived at 7th and Ave B ('76-77?) Nittersing Dec 16 #102

Ahh, Alphabet City DebbieCDC Dec 15 #72

I had a colleague, Leo, who received a call from a student spooky3 Dec 15 #54

The chair of a science department told me she got calls from the parents of young faculty. yardwork Dec 16 #105

I wonder how she replied? :-) spooky3 Dec 16 #116

She reminded them that she couldn't talk at all, due to laws, etc. yardwork Dec 16 #124

I find that seriously hard to believe Skittles Dec 16 #85

I had to tell a friend of mine not to go with her son to his first interview. Mariana Dec 16 #90

The children of very wealthy people don't even have to suffer the indignity of a real interview. hunter Dec 16 #118

That sounds like cat litter in the classroom exboyfil Dec 16 #133

Read a version of this story a couple of wks ago. This blew me away. Also mentioned allegorical oracle Dec 17 #161

I know a woman who works at a university to get students thru the program for teaching certification Attilatheblond Dec 17 #167

Bet they love AI. nt allegorical oracle Dec 17 #169

Maybe the ones who can spell it Attilatheblond Dec 17 #172

This has been going on for over 30 years Meowmee Dec 15 #4

Good grief! SheltieLover Dec 15 #10

Yes and endless tv shows, movies, video games etc. Meowmee Dec 15 #13

YouTube is for geezers JoseBalow Dec 15 #34

I think you're correct on that, Jose. Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 15 #44

I like YouTube too! JoseBalow Dec 15 #47

Back at ya, friend! Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 15 #53

Same here. Some of the You Tube videos that I watch are movie length, wnylib Dec 16 #112

I'm no youngster by any means, but I spends hours a day on YouTube Polybius Dec 15 #70

And a lot of those shorts have tik-tok watermarks... getagrip_already Dec 16 #126

I should have been more clear Polybius Dec 16 #130

"I'm going to be talking about the Mona Lisa by Leonardo DiCaprio." Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 15 #43

Yup 😹😹 Meowmee Dec 15 #52

Yeah. AI hasn't quite worked out its kinks. PeaceWave Yesterday #179

At Least Both Of Them... ProfessorGAC Dec 16 #121

Yes, lol 😹 Meowmee Dec 16 #155

I wouldn't put my name on what I have seen come out of AI so far exboyfil Dec 16 #135

Some of it is ok, if what I tested was ai etc. Meowmee Dec 16 #156

Some of this pre-dates COVID. I work at a law firm. LisaM Dec 15 #5

How much of this has to do with college? Renew Deal Dec 15 #9

Professors have their own issues, including parents. LisaM Dec 15 #18

Wouldn't IEPs cosmic wheels Dec 15 #30

My daughter had an IEP, and she isn't cognitvely impaired. She is quadriplegic with a speech disability, deurbano Dec 15 #55

Yes, you can have an IEP for ADD Lulu KC Dec 15 #63

I've heard this multiple times from different disconnected people in different regions Renew Deal Dec 15 #6

One of my hot buttons. I watched academic cbabe Dec 15 #11

Yes, we tried to save money and cut corners by dumbing down what was asked of kids meadowlander Dec 15 #80

It wasn't just about saving money. snot Dec 16 #145

Today's teachers came up during the "No Child Left Behind" period FakeNoose Dec 17 #170

Twas ever thus. They said this about GenX and Millennials too. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 15 #12

Gen X and Millennials are the ones who educated this generation IbogaProject Dec 15 #24

My point being that when Gen X got to the workplace, there were plenty of scare pieces about them being unemployable. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 15 #31

I'm older Gen X & did not live as you did - TBF Dec 15 #36

GenX has three cohorts IbogaProject Dec 15 #38

Yep. That scheduled and supervised bamagal62 Dec 15 #67

Born in '67. GaYellowDawg Dec 17 #162

Harvard started its writing program to handle the fact that students couldn't write Prairie Gates Dec 15 #68

Yes, but... Karia Dec 16 #119

IMO, readers are usually better writers. I'm curious if they're more empathetic too, generally. CrispyQ Dec 16 #131

One my slogans: in order to write well, one must read well. Plus way too much screen cbabe Dec 17 #171

They live in a world with which we lack familiarity. cachukis Dec 15 #14

In order to graduate with a four year degree, we had to write a 500 word essay. 2001 oldfart73 Dec 15 #16

In the mid 1980s, I was on the faculty of the school of nursing... 3catwoman3 Dec 15 #50

So, this isn't a brand-new phenomenon, unique to Gen Z? Mariana Dec 16 #99

I know a college ReRe Dec 16 #88

Have you read The Anxious Genrration SheltieLover Dec 15 #17

Exactly! Bluethroughu Dec 16 #134

Glad someone here has read it. SheltieLover Dec 16 #139

Oh goody! I had wondered when the youth bash threads would start up again. Celerity Dec 15 #19

I don't think it's youth bashing. LisaM Dec 15 #20

I was talking about some of the replies. Celerity Dec 15 #40

It is compassion for a problem we ALL have a role in propagating. Get a clue, Celerity. Really. hlthe2b Dec 15 #22

I was talking about some of the replies, and please do not tell me to 'get a clue' Celerity Dec 15 #45

You help no one by denying the problem exists. Is it new? No. Only getting worse. And yes, the ageism hlthe2b Dec 15 #49

You do not have right to condescend to me. EOS Celerity Dec 15 #58

You do not have the right to call out every other DUer on this thread that you disagree with-- hlthe2b Dec 15 #59

The examples I gave were youth bashing. You cannot spin that. Celerity Dec 15 #64

Well, at least there's no bashing of Abolishinist Dec 15 #81

Awww, thanks! Celerity Dec 15 #84

Sorry that some feel the need to crap on your posts Celerity Docreed2003 Dec 17 #164

thank you for the kind words Celerity Dec 17 #174

Btw, 'my abuse?' That is rich. especially coming from you, who condescendingly told me to 'get a clue' Celerity Dec 15 #62

You are correct Cirsium Dec 15 #73

It isn't strange for DU. It is par for the course. I have tried to get so many of social set, most of them in the 18 Celerity Dec 15 #82

Get a clue, Celerity. This abusive disconnect you have for those who are concerned for hlthe2b Dec 16 #96

I just read the article Cirsium Dec 16 #127

Note: snot Dec 16 #146

You do yourself no favors...Most here want to help. The question is, do YOU? hlthe2b Dec 16 #95

Just stepping in briefly here, then swiftly out again Emrys Dec 17 #157

Most here are concerned, want to help and take blame for the system that has failed several generations now hlthe2b Dec 17 #159

Do I care? Well, I can read. Emrys Dec 17 #160

Tell 'em!!! NNadir Dec 16 #138

if students cannot do the work. flunk them. does them no favors to do the work for them msongs Dec 15 #23

There is a Reddit subforum called r/BoomersBeingFools milestogo Dec 15 #27

Don't trust anyone over 30.... reACTIONary Dec 15 #35

I'm with you, milestogo ReRe Dec 16 #87

Lol there is a subreddit for just about everything. Voltaire2 Dec 16 #92

I take it you weren't one of the Boomers who were out there protesting Mariana Dec 16 #98

Its one thing to protest policies milestogo Dec 16 #106

It makes me very sad that there's so little respect for all kinds of people nowadays. snot Dec 16 #147

The next generation has been going to doom us all for centuries. Gore1FL Dec 15 #32

Right? "The younger generation sucks," said every generation ever. Orrex Dec 15 #37

I work as a substitute and I demand every student finish at least one assignment kimbutgar Dec 15 #39

we've been getting new hires at work. I can firmly say that most of them lack proper grammar, punctuation... Javaman Dec 15 #46

I was hired by a bank manager to teach cbabe Dec 15 #48

Next Year, They'll Just Buy... ProfessorGAC Dec 16 #122

A lot of the "correction" software I've experienced snot Dec 16 #148

Good One! ProfessorGAC Dec 16 #154

Wait.... After Trump and his ilk get rid of the DOE, our kids won't be able to do any jobs that requires any.... William Gustafson Dec 15 #51

I think this is an excuse a generation of humans growing up in our Bluethroughu Dec 15 #56

Going to disagree in part rpannier Dec 15 #65

The world, most countries, have began the industrialization Bluethroughu Dec 15 #76

When parents pour so much time and energy into over-parenting, snot Dec 16 #150

See post 17 SheltieLover Dec 16 #103

Some I know think they can do their whole job with their phone nini Dec 15 #61

I've seen this article angrychair Dec 15 #66

I have reason to believe it's accurate Renew Deal Dec 15 #71

It's completely anecdotal angrychair Dec 15 #79

Not any more than your story Renew Deal Dec 16 #91

Well no problem. There will be no Department of Education flamingdem Dec 15 #74

The Dept of Education wasn't formed until 1980 MichMan Dec 15 #83

Nothing new Cirsium Dec 15 #75

Socialized different. Probably technology related Sympthsical Dec 15 #77

In my experience with medical students, I've seen much of the same Docreed2003 Dec 17 #163

I've worked in an administrator position for 18 years now, where I hire professional and support staff. lees1975 Dec 15 #78

Do they improve over time at the job ? JI7 Dec 16 #89

All deez yutes need to git off my lawn. Voltaire2 Dec 16 #93

A couple of things: no_hypocrisy Dec 16 #94

Writing is BIG in law. Son was always a good writer but said in law school he really learned how to write. LizBeth Dec 16 #117

Why wouldn't parents go to job interviews with their parents tinymontgomery Dec 16 #97

Odd...my two older Gen Z kids Bettie Dec 16 #100

My youngest son is in so called, "Generation Z" NNadir Dec 16 #101

My experience with my neices and nephew, as well as my interns at work too Johnny2X2X Dec 16 #111

Thank you. I fully agree. NNadir Dec 16 #114

I agree. My sons are 29 and 27. I love their perspective/attitude and peers. Well educated. LizBeth Dec 16 #120

I was a professor at a good university for years róisín_dubh Dec 16 #104

Now I'm curious snot Dec 16 #151

It's a work in progress! róisín_dubh Dec 17 #158

How much did home schooling contribute to their social incompetence? nt in2herbs Dec 16 #107

Spend 20 minutes on tik tok... getagrip_already Dec 16 #109

Tik tok is a filter which draws a certain subset of people. NNadir Dec 16 #113

I dont have an account either, but it bleeds to other services getagrip_already Dec 16 #125

My point is not about whether you or I have an account. NNadir Dec 16 #136

I think another factor snot Dec 16 #152

So the problematic age range that we've seen ecstatic Dec 16 #110

We wind up firing about 25% of the new hires, and another 50% quit. thatdemguy Dec 16 #115

The phone addiction's as bad as snot Dec 16 #153

The phone addiction - headphones and ear buds - are a huge problem. LisaM Dec 17 #175

Yes! snot Dec 18 #178

It's not just parenting that's the problem LogDog75 Dec 16 #137

Horace said The Revolution Dec 16 #140

I can't believe snot Dec 16 #141

I could care less Renew Deal Dec 16 #143

You know, Elessar Zappa Yesterday #180

There are the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas mass shooting survivors & others that speak well to the generation... hlthe2b Yesterday #181

I'm a Boomer... rasputin1952 23 hrs ago #182

Wasn't this the "bubble boy" generation that had kids being brought up in a cocoon where everyone gets a trophy even Vinca 23 hrs ago #183

Sometimes the parents are to blame lanlady 22 hrs ago #184