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Cirsium

(1,158 posts)
57. They never will
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 06:49 PM
Monday

Don't hold your breath.

MAGA supporters ever having any regrets? Let's look to history.

Here is what William Shirer, journalist and author of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, discovered when interviewing everyday Germans after WWII. Every German city lay in ruins and millions had been killed. The death camps and prison labor were well know. A generation of German men were dead or maimed.

"There was so much that was true that did not make sense: the monumental apathy of the German people and their deep regret, not that they had started the war, but merely that they had lost it; their whining complaints at the lack of food and fuel and their total lack of sympathy or even interest in the worse plight of the occupied peoples, for which they bore so much responsibility; their boredom at the very mention of the Nuremberg trial, which they were convinced was only an Allied propaganda stunt; their striking unreadiness for, or interest in, democracy, which we, with typical Anglo-Saxon fervor and blindness, were trying to shove down their throats."

― William L. Shirer, End of a Berlin Diary

Their deep regret, not that they had started the war, but merely that they had lost it. Let that sink in. FAFO? Hardly.

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Ditto Ferrets are Cool Monday #1
Ditto x 3! n/t iluvtennis Monday #13
Ditto x infinity -- there's NO acceptable excuse William Seger Monday #42
They vote for a felon for President of the United States. There is no repentance that is sufficient. Ferrets are Cool Tuesday #86
They not only approved the suffering, they are looking forward to seeing other people suffer. Irish_Dem Monday #2
Exactly. They voted for him specifically to contribute to the suffering Orrex Monday #47
It's not that simiple MadameButterfly Tuesday #105
The two places where I volunteer ChazII Tuesday #107
Let those good, misled people demonstrate that they've seen the error of their ways Orrex Tuesday #109
Same here too! Emile Monday #3
I won't forgive the people who voted for Trump and put bumper stickers on their vehicles bragging about it. sop Monday #4
Yup, yup... fuckem all!! InAbLuEsTaTe Monday #5
I'm so sick and tired of that "own the libs" bullshit. Initech Monday #6
I have cut them all off, NameAlreadyTaken Monday #7
Anybody that voted for the orange maggot has no common sense or decency kimbutgar Monday #9
I feel sad reading this thread womanofthehills Monday #18
These people are not Republicans. Joinfortmill Monday #26
That is your decision Keepthesoulalive Monday #30
seniors need medicare , social security rampartd Monday #44
Your choice but at least become aware of what this really is LatteLady Monday #35
i had to look up "jane's revenge rampartd Monday #45
It's Not About Politics; It's About Ethics nt smb Monday #80
I understand. EndlessWire Monday #38
There is a whale of a difference between hate and anger DeeDeeNY Tuesday #96
The OP is about forgiveness of Traitor voters Arazi Monday #39
I am glad that they were there for you when you were sick. . . Stargleamer Monday #46
So if you found out your friends were racists or rapists, that would not ne a good enough reason usedtobedemgurl Monday #50
You can be polite and have compassion biophile Monday #54
It is not about "different views" Cirsium Monday #55
Not mere "different views". Voting for Trump indicates a deep moral deficiency in one's character, well worth avoiding. 0rganism Monday #74
My 88-year-old sister has cut my 78-year-old brother and his wife off because of Trump. valleyrogue Monday #76
Me too. I still have hope that some of them will have their eyes opened and hearts and minds changed. summer_in_TX Tuesday #88
Ah, the "different views" red herring Orrex Tuesday #113
I feel sad reading this thread womanofthehills Monday #19
Agree. Life is too short to cut people off, especially family, because of politics. n/t valleyrogue Monday #77
It is not about politics Cirsium Tuesday #118
Agreed. Being a white male in the business world in the Midwest, I don't really have the option to ostracize Trump Midwestern Democrat Tuesday #104
I doubt that Cirsium Tuesday #120
Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #73
Hello again!! GP6971 Monday #75
You won't talk to the guy who saved your life just because he supports Trump? Polybius Tuesday #115
No. And by the way, NameAlreadyTaken Tuesday #122
Older meme but it fits. underpants Monday #8
I lost my LilElf70 Monday #16
Hear hear. Evolve Dammit Monday #62
I'm having a very hard time forgiving them also vapor2 Monday #10
Worse Cirsium Monday #58
They voted FOR him KT2000 Monday #11
Post removed Post removed Monday #12
Well Hello!! GP6971 Monday #15
He's not going to last long JustAnotherGen Monday #17
They never do. GP6971 Monday #81
They are blinded by the cult Evolve Dammit Monday #63
it's not that simple justsomeguy01 Tuesday #110
OK - but all media showed KT2000 Tuesday #121
I won't forgive anyone either LilElf70 Monday #14
Same here. Will never forgive them. B.See Monday #20
The catch with forgiveness is that we forgive for our own mental health, not theirs. Magoo48 Monday #21
There are some things even God can't forgive. paleotn Monday #24
Sure, only my opinion. Resentment and grudges cloud my ability to focus on the here and now. Magoo48 Monday #28
Same. onecaliberal Monday #22
My schadenfreude is cleaned, all shined up and ready to roll! paleotn Monday #23
Yup. Joinfortmill Monday #25
I can forgive some of them, but others like Musk & Charlie Kirk never SunImp Monday #27
Me, neither. Kid Berwyn Monday #29
No one cares if you do or not. I doubt very much they care or want your forgiveness. Autumn Monday #31
I unfriended my cousin because of it LivingInASociety Monday #32
I'm waiting for this bumper sticker ... Jeebo Monday #33
George Conway has a bumper sticker - yellow dahlia Monday #66
To hell with them. (nt) Paladin Monday #34
My retort will be when a tRumper complains... ProudMNDemocrat Monday #36
Nor will I. Bumbles Monday #37
They did the FA.....It's the FO time 634-5789 Monday #40
They never will Cirsium Monday #57
Boy, THERE'S a cautionary tale if ever there was one. calimary Tuesday #91
Exactly right LatteLady Tuesday #99
This message was self-deleted by its author LatteLady Tuesday #100
And not Forget that they voted for the Felon Bread and Circuses Monday #41
They voted for racism and misogyny. usonian Monday #43
Me neither claudette Monday #48
I don't think anyone voted for a traitor, rapist and convicted felon should even doc03 Monday #49
They're not asking for forgiveness and I'm not giving it. Boomerproud Monday #51
Ditto Buddyzbuddy Monday #52
Never for the rest of my life Blue_Tires Monday #53
I can forgive LogDog75 Monday #56
Same for Democrats who didn't vote. DavidDvorkin Monday #59
They aren't Democrats Cirsium Tuesday #117
our country is sick. barbtries Monday #60
Assholes who voted for trump should not be forgiven LetMyPeopleVote Monday #61
I go a step further, I won't forgive those who voted third party or didn't vote also. JohnSJ Monday #64
I doubt they want to be forgiven Meowmee Monday #65
Yep ampm Monday #67
The suffering will extend well beyond the next 4 years. krkaufman Monday #68
they make me sick Skittles Monday #69
Some maybe Tweedy Monday #70
Yes. My husband's brother is old, mostly blind, and half-deaf. raging moderate Tuesday #106
I am so sorry Tweedy Tuesday #123
agree Longford1847 Monday #71
Cruel and ignorant voters elect cruel and ignorant politicians. dsharp88 Monday #72
I also won't forgive people kansasobama Monday #78
Not so fast AncientOfDays Monday #79
I don't forgive them for being knuckle dragging imbeciles. Bird Lady Monday #82
I'm lucky. Don't have a lot of friends but, yes Sir and yes Ma'am..Donald Trump is on their shit list, for ever. chouchou Monday #83
zanana1........... Upthevibe Monday #84
If you support Nazis, then you are a Nazi JoseBalow Monday #85
I've shut out all of the MAGA voters in my life La Coliniere Tuesday #87
The suffering will last more than four years. Grumpy Old Guy Tuesday #89
generation(S) justsomeguy01 Tuesday #112
There will be... Fiddlelady11 Tuesday #90
Message auto-removed Name removed Tuesday #92
No friends is a theme of yours mercuryblues Tuesday #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Tuesday #95
How do you know who anyone voted for? Shrek Tuesday #94
Me either ThePartyThatListens Tuesday #97
Many people rationalize keeping MAGAts in their life DeeDeeNY Tuesday #98
My neighbor never fly and American flag Historic NY Tuesday #101
I include both 2016 and 2024. no_hypocrisy Tuesday #102
I'm not a razor sharp political person like many people on DU Beringia Tuesday #103
I hate to say this but... the_liberal_grandpa Tuesday #108
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Tuesday #111
Will there be a chapter in a history book someday - yellow dahlia Tuesday #116
YES get the red out Tuesday #114
This has been an edifying and often painful discussion. yellow dahlia Tuesday #119
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