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In reply to the discussion: Garland let Gaetz walk [View all]summer_in_TX
(3,294 posts)90. Bill Barr was the Attorney General overseeing the investigation of Matt Gaetz when it started.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/matt-gaetz-was-once-under-investigation-for-sex-trafficking-now-he-could-lead-the-justice-department
It continued until 2023.
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I get that 1000 of you are going to whinge that Merrick Garland didn't make a prosecutorial decision it's virtually certain he wasn't involved in. But before you do, please review these details.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/matt-gaetz-ethics-report-released/
"Victim A recalled receiving $400 in cash from Representative Gaetz that evening, which she understood to be payment for sex," the committee wrote. *"Victim A said that she did not inform Representative Gaetz that she was under 18 at the time, nor did he ask her age."*
In his written responses to the committee, *Gaetz denied having sex with a minor.* The Department of Justice previously investigated Gaetz for violating sex trafficking laws but did not bring charges. The committee said *it did not find sufficient evidence Gaetz violated the federal sex trafficking statute* because although he transported women across state lines for the purpose of sex, those women were all 18 or older at the time.
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emptywheel @emptywheel.bsky.social
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The reason I say it's virtually certain he wasn't involved in it is bc the only reason anyone outside of FL would be involved is for approval to CHARGE a politician. And the sentencing filings for Joel Greenberg suggests the prosecutors were very skeptical of these charges, tho Greenberg pushed them
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Looks like US attorneys in Florida did most of it, then the DOJ sent a couple more in from DC to determine whether charges could be made. The House Ethics Committee and the DOJ alike concluded they didn't have enough evidence to charge him with trafficking. He was clever, paying after the fact and not in advance quite often which apparently makes it less obvious he was buying sex, but that it could be a gift.
The federal sex trafficking investigation that began under Attorney General Bill Barr during Trumps first term focused on allegations that Gaetz and onetime political ally Joel Greenberg paid underage girls and escorts or offered them gifts in exchange for sex.
It continued until 2023.
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16h
I get that 1000 of you are going to whinge that Merrick Garland didn't make a prosecutorial decision it's virtually certain he wasn't involved in. But before you do, please review these details.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/matt-gaetz-ethics-report-released/
"Victim A recalled receiving $400 in cash from Representative Gaetz that evening, which she understood to be payment for sex," the committee wrote. *"Victim A said that she did not inform Representative Gaetz that she was under 18 at the time, nor did he ask her age."*
In his written responses to the committee, *Gaetz denied having sex with a minor.* The Department of Justice previously investigated Gaetz for violating sex trafficking laws but did not bring charges. The committee said *it did not find sufficient evidence Gaetz violated the federal sex trafficking statute* because although he transported women across state lines for the purpose of sex, those women were all 18 or older at the time.
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emptywheel @emptywheel.bsky.social
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The reason I say it's virtually certain he wasn't involved in it is bc the only reason anyone outside of FL would be involved is for approval to CHARGE a politician. And the sentencing filings for Joel Greenberg suggests the prosecutors were very skeptical of these charges, tho Greenberg pushed them
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Looks like US attorneys in Florida did most of it, then the DOJ sent a couple more in from DC to determine whether charges could be made. The House Ethics Committee and the DOJ alike concluded they didn't have enough evidence to charge him with trafficking. He was clever, paying after the fact and not in advance quite often which apparently makes it less obvious he was buying sex, but that it could be a gift.
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Also, Kamala Harris was the first Democratic Senator to go on national televsion and call for Franken to resign
Celerity
Monday
#83
According to the report, there was no Mann Act violation or federal sex trafficking...
reACTIONary
Monday
#66
Not if he was using or distributing Drugs in DC itself. The DOJ does this type of prosecutions in the district.
mackdaddy
Monday
#23
He's just waiting for a really, really big case like a homeless person stealing a loaf of bread from the congressional
yaesu
Monday
#6
Maybe he'll give the federalist society another entertaining talk someday on this.
Think. Again.
Monday
#7
Typical Garland behavior. And 3 years later too. Why so long? Am I surprised? NO. I'm disgusted w/ him
SWBTATTReg
Monday
#10
President Biden made many a good decision in his tenure, Garland was NOT one of them. n/t
SheilaAnn
Monday
#14
News flash: Prosecutors don't always win their cases. But the facts emerge at trial
Bobstandard
Monday
#32
Prosecutors don't bring cases they don't believe they have a reasonable chance of winning.
Ms. Toad
Monday
#46
Nope. Despite its name, the Department of Justice lives within the letter of the law.
Ms. Toad
Monday
#82
"what do Garland apologists have to say now?"...I have the same question. I remember when I spoke against Garland
Escurumbele
Monday
#22
"and to have purchased and used illegal drugs, including from his Capitol Hill office,"
Hotler
Monday
#28
Whether he knew the girl was 17 is irrelevant to the law. But the statute of limitations ran out in 2020 anyway.
Wiz Imp
Monday
#49
And here in Florida, there's people in jail for 12 months because they smoked a God-Damn ONE joint.
chouchou
Monday
#34
Why didn't Biden fire Garland a couple of years ago, when this pattern became obvious.
TheRickles
Monday
#37
I believe Pres. Biden didn't fire his less than adequate Cabinet Secretaries and appointees, because...
yellow dahlia
Monday
#59
Sure there weren't. I have read the report and there is certainly probable cause.
Mr.WeRP
Monday
#74
Plenty of crimes Gaetz committed that DoJ could have prosecuted for that came out of the evidence collected by the ethic
Wiz Imp
Monday
#51
Bill Barr was the Attorney General overseeing the investigation of Matt Gaetz when it started.
summer_in_TX
Tuesday
#90