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Ms. Toad

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98. The citizenry includes people like

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:45 AM

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The central Park Five, and other people dragged through the mud (and in to many instances convicted)

Just because you happen to believe the person being dragged through the mud deserved it doesn't make it right, unless there is a reasonable chance of conviction. The weight of the Justice system coming against an individual is a heavy burden that, when wrong, falls hardest on those who are least able to fight it - poor, non-white skin, non-English speakers.

Could you afford $100,000 or so to defend yourself if Trump decides justice would be served by having his justice department prosecute you for something for which there is a near zero chance of conviction? The US does not have a loser pays system - so you would be on the hook for attorney fees, recovering from whatever job loss happened while you were in jail of the courtroom and for rebuilding your life and reputation after you are doing not guilty.

Gaetz should have been prosecuted by Florida, fot the crimes for which there is sufficient evidence. The DOJ is not a back-up hammer for a state's failure to do it's job, unless there is a reasonable chance of conviction on Federal charges.

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Garland let Gaetz walk [View all] Mr.WeRP Monday OP

Well, basically, piddyprints Monday #1

Kirsten Gillibrand Fullduplexxx Monday #4

Plus 38 other Senators SocialDemocrat61 Monday #21

I haven't really forgiven those Senators LakeArenal Monday #54

I'm a fan of Chris Murphy but his joining the Franklin lynch mob, dem4decades Monday #56

Murphy also voted to confirm Aileen Cannon judgeship DeeDeeNY Tuesday #94

Also, Kamala Harris was the first Democratic Senator to go on national televsion and call for Franken to resign Celerity Monday #83

Great summary SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #88

This is so old and tired, pick one woman and eviscerate her. LizBeth Monday #27

Garland is a waste of space NotHardly Monday #13

What 3auld6phart Monday #25

He didn't. He chose to resign. Groundhawg Monday #24

Only ONE senator made Al Franken resign Charging Triceratops Monday #36

Franken was right to resign GoreWon2000 Tuesday #104

He was too progressive. Lunabell Monday #86

Wrong awesomerwb1 Tuesday #101

Neo liberalism is dead. Lunabell Tuesday #105

Sexual harassment is a serious issue GoreWon2000 Tuesday #103

To be fair the only federal charge here would have been the Mann act dsc Monday #2

They could have damn near copy and pasted Diddy's indictments. W_HAMILTON Monday #18

did she witness the travel part and the money part dsc Monday #20

According to the report, there was no Mann Act violation or federal sex trafficking... reACTIONary Monday #66

DOJ did not share it's evidence gab13by13 Monday #76

DOJ did not share evidence, and they did not prosecute either, so.... reACTIONary Monday #79

you clearly didn't read Diddy's indictments krawhitham Tuesday #89

Not if he was using or distributing Drugs in DC itself. The DOJ does this type of prosecutions in the district. mackdaddy Monday #23

That is a fair point dsc Monday #40

I see no specific allegations in the report concerning the drugs. Wiz Imp Monday #52

According to the report, there was no violation of the Mann act because.... reACTIONary Monday #64

Only If Southern_gent Tuesday #100

Garland was protecting the long-cherished insitution of federal sex-trafficking. sop Monday #3

By Congressman Fullduplexxx Monday #5

Child rapist and insurrection lover. onecaliberal Monday #19

According to the report, there was no Federal sex trafficking... reACTIONary Monday #67

He's just waiting for a really, really big case like a homeless person stealing a loaf of bread from the congressional yaesu Monday #6

Maybe he'll give the federalist society another entertaining talk someday on this. Think. Again. Monday #7

Garland had that evidence 3 years ago. gab13by13 Monday #8

Elon Musk has been violating security protocols since 2022. gab13by13 Monday #9

Odds are better that Pam will before Merrick the Meek would. republianmushroom Monday #61

Typical Garland behavior. And 3 years later too. Why so long? Am I surprised? NO. I'm disgusted w/ him SWBTATTReg Monday #10

Leave Garland Alllllooooooooonnnnneee !!!! (in 3 .... 2 ..... 1) uponit7771 Monday #11

Won't hear that from me! LW1977 Monday #16

The DOJ will not touch Members of Congress who are criminals and traitors. Irish_Dem Monday #12

President Biden made many a good decision in his tenure, Garland was NOT one of them. n/t SheilaAnn Monday #14

Fuck Garland! LW1977 Monday #15

What part of the report suggests the DOJ Ms. Toad Monday #17

News flash: Prosecutors don't always win their cases. But the facts emerge at trial Bobstandard Monday #32

Prosecutors don't bring cases they don't believe they have a reasonable chance of winning. Ms. Toad Monday #46

Exactly Wiz Imp Monday #48

You mistake the letter of the law for justice. nt Bobstandard Monday #55

In a court of law.... reACTIONary Monday #72

Nope. Despite its name, the Department of Justice lives within the letter of the law. Ms. Toad Monday #82

You illustrate what's wrong with the system Bobstandard Tuesday #96

The citizenry includes people like Ms. Toad Tuesday #98

Gaslighting now? Bobstandard Wednesday #106

My point is the burden on innocent people, Ms. Toad Wednesday #107

Point badly made. Bobstandard Wednesday #108

It is hypocritical to believe the justice department Ms. Toad Wednesday #109

And yet we see exactly that Bobstandard Yesterday #112

Prosecuting a case without evidence to convict is .... reACTIONary Monday #71

"what do Garland apologists have to say now?"...I have the same question. I remember when I spoke against Garland Escurumbele Monday #22

They'll ask where you got your law degree. nt Hotler Monday #29

Perhaps they'll invoke their anonymous, well-placed sources Orrex Monday #65

And then they'll call you names. It'll be grand. Scrivener7 Tuesday #95

That would be a good question. reACTIONary Monday #73

I've noticed a disturbing trend here at DU; every time AOC issues a statement robbob Monday #45

You made some important (bottom line) points. yellow dahlia Monday #57

but...but...he arrested hundreds with beards and tattoos - SWOON! Noel Kums Monday #26

"and to have purchased and used illegal drugs, including from his Capitol Hill office," Hotler Monday #28

Here is the report's description.... reACTIONary Monday #75

All the things that the Nazipublicans did in the past 4 years... dchill Monday #30

Makes me wonder if Garland is a johnnyfins Monday #31

To be clear, the reported results of the investigation moniss Monday #33

Whether he knew the girl was 17 is irrelevant to the law. But the statute of limitations ran out in 2020 anyway. Wiz Imp Monday #49

In addition.... reACTIONary Monday #68

I believe you are correct. Wiz Imp Monday #69

As I said trying to do the case of the 17 year old moniss Monday #85

And here in Florida, there's people in jail for 12 months because they smoked a God-Damn ONE joint. chouchou Monday #34

Arguably the worst AG in American history. paleotn Monday #35

Why didn't Biden fire Garland a couple of years ago, when this pattern became obvious. TheRickles Monday #37

I believe Pres. Biden didn't fire his less than adequate Cabinet Secretaries and appointees, because... yellow dahlia Monday #59

Statutory rape is a .... reACTIONary Monday #38

You have obviously skipped over many responses Mr.WeRP Monday #41

Your right! There are lots of responses and most of them.... reACTIONary Monday #47

Link Mr.WeRP Monday #53

From replies to that comment... reACTIONary Monday #70

Sure there weren't. I have read the report and there is certainly probable cause. Mr.WeRP Monday #74

There certainly is probable cause... reACTIONary Monday #78

Plenty of crimes Gaetz committed that DoJ could have prosecuted for that came out of the evidence collected by the ethic Wiz Imp Monday #51

Statute of limitations ran out on the statutory rape in 2020 anyway. Wiz Imp Monday #50

Good thing 3auld6phart Monday #39

I would have preferred him there ecstatic Monday #42

He needs to pay the taxpayers back every cent of his salary he received. lees1975 Monday #43

Shameful North Coast Lawyer Monday #44

One must understand the need for patience. republianmushroom Monday #58

Bigger fish Diraven Monday #60

And claudette Monday #62

Dereliction of duty Evolve Dammit Monday #63

Disappointing robleb Monday #77

Is this really a surprise? Janbdwl72 Monday #80

Garland is hands down Buden's worst cabinet pick BluenFLA Monday #81

So did Pam Bondi. Cattledog Monday #84

which state laws could he have been tried on? onenote Tuesday #97

Because Garland is a timid WIMP Across-the-Desk Tuesday #87

Bill Barr was the Attorney General overseeing the investigation of Matt Gaetz when it started. summer_in_TX Tuesday #90

Had to build a case really, really thoroughly. nilram Tuesday #91

I really had... 2naSalit Tuesday #92

Everyone who supports Biden is a Garland apologist Kaleva Tuesday #93

One would ponder if MG has young girls/boys in his closet. Clouds Passing Tuesday #99

This message was self-deleted by its author republianmushroom Tuesday #102

Garland is a pussy union rep Wednesday #110

bigger fish to fry would certainly be the most infuriating prodigitalson Wednesday #111