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76. I remember the W. Bush administration and

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:03 PM

Dec 2024

.... I was in shock the whole time, beginning with the shutdown of voting in Florida and having the Supreme Court elect the president. After 9/11 people lost their jobs if they were from the Middle East. Phil Donahue lost his TV show because he opposed the Iraq war. Joe Wilson went to Niger to prove that Sadam had never bought 'yellow cake' (uranium) from Niger. Bush punished him by outing his wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA agent. That ended her career. Bush had evangelicals in Africa teaching the people that abstinence was the cure for AIDS, even if you were married. No mention of condoms.

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This post will probably sink like a stone... [View all] PCIntern Dec 2024 OP

AMEN recovering_democrat Dec 2024 #1

That's all true. bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #2

If people have not read it, I can strongly suggest reading "A Fever In The Heartland" by Timothy Egan GeoWilliam750 Dec 2024 #66

I recommend Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the U.S." Martin68 Dec 2024 #88

Also an excellent read. GeoWilliam750 Dec 2024 #98

Nail meet hammer Pachamama Dec 2024 #3

Happy....er...what? Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #4

the smothers brothers, phil donahue were superstars rampartd Dec 2024 #5

We are trained to work The Madcap Dec 2024 #6

Oh Yeah. Some of my Nordic friends call Americans "Ants" ....it ain't a compliment. chouchou Dec 2024 #35

Information overload The Wizard Dec 2024 #7

This is what I want to say... madaboutharry Dec 2024 #8

Is that them new bees or hornets that invaded us from Asia? 3Hotdogs Dec 2024 #23

Yum! Shipwack Dec 2024 #51

Sounds like it'll bee good! calimary Dec 2024 #96

Joyce Vance shared a recipe for Rugelach on her Substack. soldierant Dec 2024 #81

Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia Wicked Blue Dec 2024 #9

And eliminate DOE in Project 2025 Evolve Dammit Dec 2024 #25

People need to watch jeopardy MacKasey Dec 2024 #10

True, but Jeopardy has changed. LisaM Dec 2024 #15

I have a friend born in the 1950s IbogaProject Dec 2024 #57

It depends on the categories. LisaM Dec 2024 #64

Alot more pop culture QA as well. nt Ilsa Dec 2024 #77

"I went home for lunch" BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #34

I lived 2 blocks from school MacKasey Dec 2024 #46

I lived about 4 blocks from my original elementary school BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #53

I had the exact experience as a kid, La Coliniere Dec 2024 #65

Frankly, I think that is exactly the wrong approach. malthaussen Dec 2024 #67

I can appreciate your disagreement MacKasey Dec 2024 #70

An interesting observation, and of course it leads to Santayana's famous remark, Ocelot II Dec 2024 #11

I frequently get posts from a group called "Old Time Baseball" in my fb feed. malthaussen Dec 2024 #68

This is why history isn't linear, but moves in cycles Blaukraut Dec 2024 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #12

Historians are fully aware of what you both say. Which is why they become historians in the first place, and why ancianita Dec 2024 #21

bookmarking to read later. Thank you. I rec'd it already and want to chew on a bit - and provide a respose. NewHendoLib Dec 2024 #13

Yep. Another way to put it is "here and now" -- that's all Americans care about, the current KPN Dec 2024 #14

We also often forget when our stars are no longer with us. keep_left Dec 2024 #16

Outstanding. Mike 03 Dec 2024 #17

I always refer to a sense of history. murielm99 Dec 2024 #18

No Long-Term Memory is how bastards get the US Taxpayer on the Hook Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #19

Sigh...sadly, all true. pandr32 Dec 2024 #20

To me, the key line on your post: Escurumbele Dec 2024 #22

There's never a magical time of remembering Sympthsical Dec 2024 #24

Ho ho ho... PCIntern Dec 2024 #28

Do you know all kinds of 1880s and 90s singers as well? Popular theater actors of the Gilded Age? Sympthsical Dec 2024 #39

Memory intelpug Dec 2024 #83

I remember the Grass Roots. My band opened for them Mblaze Dec 2024 #26

That's actually pretty cool... PCIntern Dec 2024 #29

The band we opened for that sucked the most Mblaze Dec 2024 #40

I remember them too BlueSpot Dec 2024 #97

They definitely had some hits. Mblaze Dec 2024 #99

Sanewashing is brainwashing. dchill Dec 2024 #27

Happy & healthy New Year to you and yours, PCI Hekate Dec 2024 #30

And to you!!! PCIntern Dec 2024 #41

Let's Live ForToday JMCKUSICK Dec 2024 #31

Gore Vidal dubbed the US thucythucy Dec 2024 #32

Excellent points, perfectly articulated. PCIntern Dec 2024 #42

You jumped right from radios to smart phones. What about TV? nt Nittersing Dec 2024 #48

TV obviously also had an impact, thucythucy Dec 2024 #54

A lot of kids were "raised" by television Nittersing Dec 2024 #56

Good points. thucythucy Dec 2024 #58

Many Americans are lazy young_at_heart Dec 2024 #33

I feel that... 2naSalit Dec 2024 #59

I would also rather do those things BUT MuseRider Dec 2024 #90

What you wrote echoes my feelings riverbendviewgal Dec 2024 #36

athiest that does xmas traditions here Kali Dec 2024 #37

The result of letting many home school their children biophile Dec 2024 #38

Thinking more philosophically, there is the 14th Dalai Lama outlook Beringia Dec 2024 #43

I went to high school with Hugh Downs' daughter PCIntern Dec 2024 #44

"We are the weak link: deliberately undereducated and programmed by the corporate media." OldBaldy1701E Dec 2024 #45

Memory is a small part - Nigrum Cattus Dec 2024 #47

Even in the 70s history Figarosmom Dec 2024 #49

History teachers intelpug Dec 2024 #84

And he was right Figarosmom Dec 2024 #85

Excellent. I would also add that somewhere along the line, "History is boring" became a LoisB Dec 2024 #50

History was made boring by becoming an endless recitation of facts. malthaussen Dec 2024 #69

A salient point about the band The Grass Roots EYESORE 9001 Dec 2024 #52

PCIntern............ Upthevibe Dec 2024 #55

In the era of "personality politics" (bad) people only want their prejudices reinforced. And they are easily tricked. usonian Dec 2024 #60

You echo my thoughts... rasputin1952 Dec 2024 #61

Nostalgia and its opposites Nasruddin Dec 2024 #62

And assassination is becoming too common dlbell Dec 2024 #63

Gotta agree with everything here... Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #71

I get the point... lonely bird Dec 2024 #73

Am an American. I remember Tweedy Dec 2024 #74

You speak the truth! Ziggysmom Dec 2024 #75

I remember the W. Bush administration and Beck23 Dec 2024 #76

I remember in the early 80s many people didnt know who their Senators were Callie1979 Dec 2024 #78

It is shocking to me anyway Meowmee Dec 2024 #79

I agree 200% with you! slightlv Dec 2024 #80

It's not that Americans have no memory. The problem is mass media. Initech Dec 2024 #82

Thank you for this. MuseRider Dec 2024 #86

You better start swimmin' or you'll sink like a stone. Yes, our memories, like our attention spans, have shrunk down Martin68 Dec 2024 #87

There is no community memory Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #89

Rethink the idea of american amnesia Southern_gent Dec 2024 #91

Disagree with almost every point PCIntern Dec 2024 #93

Let's Have a Real Conversation: Disagree? Tell Me Why! Southern_gent Dec 2024 #94

Because I'm busy. PCIntern Dec 2024 #95

"international efforts to curb authoritarianism" Lulu KC Jan 2025 #100

some of the best tv shows in my memory were one season or 2 seasons ones . barely got off the ground and yanked AllaN01Bear Dec 2024 #92

But knowing the short-term memory of The Public is why no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #101