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Ocelot II

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25. Prosecutors don't jail anybody. Judges jail, and only *if* a jury finds the defendant guilty

Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:19 PM

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and if a prison sentence is indicated by the federal sentencing guidelines. There was never a guarantee that the prosecutions of Trump would have been successful. My fear was always that they would go to trial before the election and Trump would be acquitted, a very possible outcome given the uniqueness of the cases and the prosecution's heavy burden of proof. If Garland had moved as quickly as we wish he had done, it was still far from a done deal that Trump would have been convicted, especially wrt the 1/6 charges. There would have been plenty of time to try the Mierda-Lardo documents case if Judge Cannon hadn't thrown sand in the gears, and that was a stronger case - but even if Trump had been convicted he would have appealed and he still wouldn't be in jail by the time of the election.

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I'm not meaning to cause trouble or to place blame [View all] Upthevibe Thursday OP

I'd like to know why Dem presidents always appoint or allow SheltieLover Thursday #1

Good point. Think. Again. Thursday #6

I just can't fathom why every Dem president entrusts DOJ/FBI to rethugs SheltieLover Thursday #17

Unless you ask Biden, you're not going to get a useful answer. Especially not here. Iggo Thursday #2

Presidents (other than Trump) carefully stay away from trying to manage Ocelot II Thursday #3

Agree. A couple other points are that a) he was viewed as a very even-handed judge and that's allegorical oracle Thursday #8

Because Garland isn't the villain of this story. Fiendish Thingy Thursday #4

I think Biden was occupied edhopper Thursday #5

If some of the posts here on DU are any indication... Think. Again. Thursday #7

If, as you imply, he was a Russian asset, doesn't that make Biden one, too? Ocelot II Thursday #13

I didn't imply any such thing. Think. Again. Thursday #14

So, if "he wasn't working for the U.S. despite his paycheck," who was he working for? Ocelot II Thursday #15

My implication is clearly that he was working AGAINST the U.S., not "for" it. Think. Again. Thursday #19

But why? If he was working against the US he must have had a reason. Ocelot II Thursday #22

You would have to ask him. Think. Again. Thursday #24

IMO, both Biden and Garland knew what a chitshow trying trump would be. trump deserved it, but it obviously didn't Silent Type Thursday #9

I disagree. IMO Garland purposefully dragged his feet and delayed prosecuting and jailing trump... brush Thursday #11

Maybe, but Biden could have picked up the phone at any time and said get it in gear or you are fired. Silent Type Thursday #20

Just not Rebl2 Thursday #23

So they were afraid to act? Wow. JanMichael Thursday #37

What good does it do to act when you can't get your target and you enhance their hold on Silent Type Thursday #43

Federalist Society member Garland should've never been picked. Biden didn't owe him shit... brush Thursday #10

Garland was never a member of the Federalist Society. Ocelot II Thursday #12

He certainly is a favored leader if his multiple speeches to them are any indication. Think. Again. Thursday #18

I was misinformed. Garland did, however, failed to prosecute and jail... brush Thursday #21

Prosecutors don't jail anybody. Judges jail, and only *if* a jury finds the defendant guilty Ocelot II Thursday #25

Please. I think you know what I mean. We all say trump's cirmes on J6 on TV. brush Thursday #26

Oh, well, "we all say trump's crimes on J6 on TV." Ocelot II Thursday #28

You must be an attorney, sees both sides of an issue. brush Thursday #34

I don't know. I don't even know what that means. Ocelot II Thursday #38

Never mind. I see you remain an attorney who sees both sides instead of the elephant in...forget it. brush Thursday #41

What did you want from me? I gave you my honest opinion, Ocelot II Thursday #42

I don't think Biden is that disappointed, Garland and Biden are both institutionalist but there comes a point where ... uponit7771 Thursday #16

Republicans allowed Trump to skate twice on the impeachments. OAITW r.2.0 Thursday #27

Because he ForgedCrank Thursday #29

Obviously, 100% certainty of conviction is not a requirement for the DOJ to prosecute... Think. Again. Thursday #31

I never ForgedCrank Thursday #32

Your words... Think. Again. Thursday #33

ALSO "my words" ForgedCrank Thursday #36

Your assumption of what his opinion might have been is noted. Think. Again. Thursday #39

I believe ForgedCrank Thursday #40

Another pretty solid theory that seems to be well accepted... Think. Again. Thursday #45

They are ForgedCrank Yesterday #47

nah. Think. Again. 23 hrs ago #48

Ok ForgedCrank 19 hrs ago #49

I have a theory....a concept of a theory. yellow dahlia Thursday #30

I don't think he likes to fire people Polybius Thursday #35

That has baffled me, too... GiqueCee Thursday #44

I am not biting. Beastly Boy Thursday #46

He probably couldn't come up with a good reason that wouldn't make him look bad Jose Garcia 14 hrs ago #50