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snot

(10,897 posts)
42. What about a convention to identify a limited set of issues to work on together,
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:35 PM
Dec 26

make realistic plans for making the changes happen including interim goals and timelines, and actually assign tasks & exhange contact info among those who will work together?

I feel this could get just as much publicity and be just as energizing as a march, just as much or more fun and social in terms of forming working connections for going forward, and perhaps be more likely to yield particular, concrete successes.

Nothing against marches and protests, especially around causes that most people aren't even aware of; but at this point I think most people have at least some awareness of a lot of the issues that might be raised by a Women's March, and I think a lot of us feel that what we need is a realistic plan of action. We need to copy ALEC, and write draft model legislation, interview candidates about our issues prior to elections and get those questions into public debates, send delegations to representatives' offices, etc. etc.

It's fine to protest against things; it's better to also offer something specific and concrete to replace it with.

You can’t counter institutional power with good intentions, or charisma alone…. You have to build your own institutional power.

– Mike Gecan, recorded by Studs Terkel, Hope Dies Last: keeping the Faith in Troubled Times, p. 238 (The New Press, 2003).


Imho, it would be best to say up front, we recognize that all issues are interrelated, but however much we care about them, for the sake of getting things done and not breaking into factions, we're limiting this particular effort to women and gender-related issues, rather than also trying to fix other kinds of inequities, urgent as those may be.

I also think we should focus on the goals that are most do-able; e.g., I think most Americans of all parties at least secretly agree that the government should not be interfering so much with adults' decisions re- abortions and that gay marriage and in vitro fertilization should remain available. If on the other hand, we allow ourselves to get pulled into taking positions on too many different issues, or on the most controversial onces, such as gender-affirming surgery for minors or late-term abortions, I'm afraid we'll accomplish nothing other than exacerbating existing divisions.

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This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #1
It's useless. What is important is voting in elections JI7 Dec 25 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #4
The way to show support is by voting during election time JI7 Dec 25 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #7
I do what will help and the protests aren't helping JI7 Dec 25 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author paleotn Dec 25 #18
Where did they go? lapucelle Dec 26 #45
3 reasons to protest JMCKUSICK Dec 25 #13
Did this in 2017 JustAnotherGen Dec 26 #39
"Demand representation that matches the party, not the party leaders, and dictate its voice." lapucelle Dec 26 #44
This might take a couple of responses and JMCKUSICK Dec 26 #47
Both perhaps? paleotn Dec 25 #17
It costs $$$$ LeftInTX Dec 25 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #21
You are welcome to organize it yourself!! LeftInTX Dec 25 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #29
I'm a full time volunteer. I'm not a millionaire. LeftInTX Dec 25 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #35
Maybe third party voters and the Abandon Harris folks can organize it. lapucelle Dec 26 #46
These protests are not helping and becoming a problem JI7 Dec 25 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #5
No, many people did not vote or they voted for Trump JI7 Dec 25 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 25 #12
What protests are those? Wiz Imp Dec 25 #10
Women's March in DC LeftInTX Dec 25 #16
Yes. We have such short memories. paleotn Dec 25 #20
I don't think that's what the person I was responding to was referring to. Wiz Imp Dec 25 #24
2017 women's march caused "problems"? Really. paleotn Dec 25 #19
It did indeed cause problems right from the get go. lapucelle Dec 26 #43
"Why is the creator of the Women's March on Washington blacklisting Hillary Clinton's name?" Cha Dec 26 #48
Short memories forget the pro-Sharia law supporter EllieBC Dec 26 #49
Hopefully they can out the Antisemites this time Jose Garcia Dec 25 #14
Whatever happened JustAnotherGen Dec 25 #26
She was recently full of praise for Donald Trump's outreach to the Muslim-American community lapucelle Dec 25 #31
Theocracy Now? More like Hypocrisy Now! LeftInTX Dec 25 #32
How right you are. lapucelle Dec 25 #34
Anything JustAnotherGen Dec 26 #40
Sarsour and Perez still appear to be affiliated with the Women's March Foundation. lapucelle Dec 25 #28
When I read this I already felt like whatever takes place JI7 Dec 25 #36
It wouldn't be the first time that a rally was coopted by bad actors. lapucelle Dec 25 #37
Exactly JustAnotherGen Dec 26 #41
In 2017 Codifer Dec 25 #22
Black womem JustAnotherGen Dec 25 #25
This is at best: Performative JustAnotherGen Dec 25 #23
It was performative the first time around as well. lapucelle Dec 25 #38
A classic "let's not but say we did" moment. BannonsLiver Dec 25 #33
What about a convention to identify a limited set of issues to work on together, snot Dec 26 #42
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