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WhiskeyGrinder

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1. It's from an excellent op-ed by Phil Klay.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:00 AM
Saturday
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/05/opinion/trump-boat-strikes.html

https://archive.ph/78Dib

When Trump administration officials post snuff films of alleged drug boats blowing up, of a weeping migrant handcuffed by immigration officers or of themselves in front of inmates at a brutal El Salvadoran prison, I often think of a story St. Augustine told in his “Confessions.”

In the fourth century A.D., a young man named Alypius arrived in Rome to study law. He was a decent sort. He knew the people at the center of the empire delighted in cruel gladiatorial games, and he promised himself he would not go. Eventually, though, his fellow students dragged him to a match. At first, the crowd appalled Alypius. “The entire place seethed with the most monstrous delight in the cruelty,” Augustine wrote, and Alypius kept his eyes shut, refusing to look at the evil around him.

But then a man fell in combat, a great roar came from the crowd and curiosity forced open Alypius’s eyes. He was “struck in the soul by a wound graver than the gladiator in his body.” He saw the blood, and he drank in savagery. Riveted, “he imbibed madness.” Soon, Augustine said, he became “a fit companion for those who had brought him.”

There are many reasons to object to the policies that the Trump administration’s videos and memes showcase. Yet the images themselves also inflict wounds, of the kind that Alypius suffered when he raised his eyelids. The president inhabits a position of moral leadership. When the president and his officials sell their policies, they’re selling a version of what it means to be an American — what should evoke our love and our hate, our disgust and our delight. If all governments rest on opinion, as James Madison thought, then it is this moral shaping of the electorate that gives the president his freedom of action, and that we will still have to reckon with once he is gone.
It's from an excellent op-ed by Phil Klay. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #1
Thank you! I looked, but couldn't find it again. niyad Saturday #3
Trumpism is more than just Trump. Beartracks Saturday #16
Thanks for sharing. yellow dahlia Saturday #21
That shit has been going on for ages. Turbineguy Saturday #2
As has been frequently said on DU dlk Saturday #4
Yes, I agree. They showed all the snuff films. Walleye Saturday #10
This is why I don't understand why people like violent movies. LisaM Saturday #5
Especially if you dehumanize them by labeling them "terrorists." surfered Saturday #6
Narco-terrorists "criminal illegal aliens." surprised they haven't thought up another hateful adjective to put in there Walleye Saturday #11
Authoritarians have to change public perspectives on the use of violence, tell them it's for the good of the nation. Timeflyer Saturday #7
Maybe this is why IT is always referring to people he doesn't like as "animals". The same as LoisB Saturday #8
There are a lot of us who will never be desensitized Six117 Saturday #9
The discussion frame has gone from illegal war to war crime to double tap. hay rick Saturday #12
I remember some of the debates here on DU about violent video games malaise Saturday #13
High School Shooters Kid Berwyn Saturday #15
Worked on 9-11 Kid Berwyn Saturday #14
I watched that whole progression with increasing horror and revulsion, niyad Saturday #17
At the time, I said to myself "Pearl Harbor reference in 1...2...3..." malthaussen Saturday #19
In "Woman of the Year," Kate Hepburn's character becomes a baseball fanatic... malthaussen Saturday #18
Napoleon .. aggiesal Saturday #20
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