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Jack Valentino

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78. I THANK GOD for the protesters AND the 'observers' who have more physical courage
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:12 PM
Jan 2026

than I do, especially in Minnesota, who have been putting so much pressure on ICE agents, that those agents are privately complaining that "the battle is LOST in Minnesota" !!!

(although here in Michigan, there has thus far been little ICE activity compared to the areas 'in the news'.... SO FAR---
so I could likely be excused for my lack of physical participation in any such thing... but 'in spirit', I am WITH them!)

I am older like you, 63 years now--- and probably likewise lost my illusions of 'immortality' long ago....

(although in my youth, at 16 years just after getting my driver's license,
I began taking flying lessons--- I was very close to my first 'solo' flight,
when I became derailed from that interest, partly by winter
but mostly due to the onset of a 'first serious love'---
NOW I can hardly believe that I was trying to do that--- flying is inherently dangerous,
and I wasn't very good at it, especially with 'crosswind landings', as I was never a very good athlete!)

((My flight instructor once shouted at me,
"you're going to land it by yourself this time,
even if you break the landing gear off!" LOL))


Your advice about 'keeping your distance from these brown-shirts' is OF COURSE very sound---
and like you, I don't want to see anyone else injured or killed by these nazi-brown-shirt-wannabees---

but never-the-less I thank GOD (or one's deity of choice, or none at all)
that these younger people have the courage to confront ICE directly---
and I greatly admire all of them who do so---


especially including all those who may ignore our advice about 'distance', as younger people are likely to do!


Considering the purported age demographics of this forum,
you are most likely "preaching to the choir" here---
but I agree that is was worth saying!


(But on the other hand, ICE agents are stopping their vehicles
and smashing out the car windows of people who were
merely the vehicle behind them in traffic---
for allegedly 'impeding' them,
which CLEARLY could not have been done FROM BEHIND,

but HERE WE ARE!)




When this battle is finally over, as it surely WILL be,
there should be a monument erected which lists the names
of all those protesters and observers who lost their lives in this battle for freedom!



Quite possibly 'Presidential Medals of Freedom' should be in order for all of them,
when we next have a president who respects freedom and the Constitution!
(which of course means A Democrat!)





















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I invite everybody to ignore this nonsense Prairie Gates Jan 2026 #1
Same... fuck that noise. n/t demmiblue Jan 2026 #5
my life experience and opinion isn't nonsense bigtree Jan 2026 #65
Is using a cellphone camera confrontation? leftstreet Jan 2026 #2
no bigtree Jan 2026 #9
The Minneapolis protests have been effective because they have been nonviolent. Ocelot II Jan 2026 #18
I think that's what they want leftstreet Jan 2026 #20
You completely misunderstand what's going on here! Ocelot II Jan 2026 #25
Well, you could be right leftstreet Jan 2026 #31
We see you Ocelot II. We know you're standing on the tip of the wedge and we appreciate you. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #32
Id gladly drive over to STL xmas74 Jan 2026 #35
Classic non-violent passive resistance inspired by Ghandi & MLK thought crime Jan 2026 #70
That's the actual issue. IrishAfricanAmerican Jan 2026 #67
This OP is the very definition of "concern trolling" AStern Jan 2026 #3
No, it's not. H2O Man Jan 2026 #8
I don't agree with the OP AStern Jan 2026 #13
One can disagree H2O Man Jan 2026 #24
I value your opinion bigtree Jan 2026 #44
Always! H2O Man Jan 2026 #53
I woke up with a bug in my ass, and I made a post that I don't agree with bigtree Jan 2026 #59
Right. H2O Man Jan 2026 #61
it's just concern bigtree Jan 2026 #15
I was referring to the content of the OP AStern Jan 2026 #17
I appreciate your point of view bigtree Jan 2026 #26
Should know better than to protest fascism? No. The goons will do what they will do. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #33
Nobody feels particularly brave - and sometimes we're just out protesting on street corners in small groups Ocelot II Jan 2026 #41
I imagine it isn't what runs through your mind. But as you have said below, Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #45
AND, I HAVE to add: it's having an effect. Without Minnesotans standing for what's right, Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #49
The louder the protests get, the more it will occur I think Torchlight Jan 2026 #28
Well said. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #34
John Lewis isn't remembered because he stayed home instead of getting his head cracked EdmondDantes_ Jan 2026 #4
I get that bigtree Jan 2026 #16
Sometimes life doesn't leave you the choice EdmondDantes_ Jan 2026 #38
Edmond, respectfully bigtree Jan 2026 #47
The Neville Chamberlain strategy never works. gab13by13 Jan 2026 #6
Many people have been trained by local groups in nonviolent direct action techniques. Ocelot II Jan 2026 #7
Seriously, who sees the brilliant organizing of the people of Minneapolis and says "Better if you stay home"??? Prairie Gates Jan 2026 #12
Direct confrontation can take many forms Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #10
I don't think we're at the stage where we need to sacrifice ourselves bigtree Jan 2026 #19
I'm not promoting sacrificing one's life Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #42
I think you're right about that bigtree Jan 2026 #48
You have a point. It's gotten way too dangerous. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2026 #11
As a 76 year old geezer I agree with the sentiment but without those individuals who just aren't going to take NoMoreRepugs Jan 2026 #14
I'm one of those geezers, too. Ocelot II Jan 2026 #21
That's an important distinction leftstreet Jan 2026 #36
I'm somewhat a believer that the violence perpetrated against civil rights protestors bigtree Jan 2026 #23
Thousands of us have been trained in nonviolent direct action techniques. Ocelot II Jan 2026 #29
People need to peaceful protest. Sad part is bluestarone Jan 2026 #22
Minnesota protesters aren't doing anything like what you describe yourself doing. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #27
Wavy Gravy. . . . 🔥 😍 that's dope MagickMuffin Jan 2026 #30
I think it was '76 bigtree Jan 2026 #39
(a) it makes a difference if you were protesting the '76 Ford White House, or the '78 Carter White House muriel_volestrangler Jan 2026 #73
well, you projected quite a lot there as you zoomed past my point bigtree Jan 2026 #75
Be Careful Out There OC375 Jan 2026 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2026 #66
People want to feel like they are being courageous and caring gulliver Jan 2026 #40
Oh, FFS! We aren't doing it so we can feel courageous and caring. Ocelot II Jan 2026 #50
OMG Cirsium Jan 2026 #54
Jesus H. What a disgusting take. Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #55
Quite the assertions Torchlight Jan 2026 #60
It's only very likely causation gulliver Jan 2026 #63
Well, You're Getting a Lot of Blowback on This One. MineralMan Jan 2026 #43
big tree WillowCreek Jan 2026 #46
that's projecting something I haven't said bigtree Jan 2026 #51
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2026 #74
"wait for the midterms" is one approach - TBF Jan 2026 #52
you seem to misunderstand bigtree Jan 2026 #56
I don get why anyone would think you're "telling" people.... electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #69
You have this on a repeating loop? NoRethugFriends Jan 2026 #57
listen bigtree Jan 2026 #58
I agree with the OP 100% calguy Jan 2026 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2026 #64
"Stay the fuck back, out of their reach." KS Toronado Jan 2026 #68
Believe me, folks know exactly what they're risking when they confront ICE to save their neighbors. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2026 #71
I have two adult sons bigtree Jan 2026 #72
Some were saying that during the Civil Rights Movement. When ICE and the DOJ views taking picture of ICE abuses lostincalifornia Jan 2026 #76
of course I haven't said the protestors are the problem, or people taking pictures bigtree Jan 2026 #77
I THANK GOD for the protesters AND the 'observers' who have more physical courage Jack Valentino Jan 2026 #78
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