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Novara

(6,115 posts)
23. Polling is completely fucked.
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:55 AM
Oct 31

And it has been since 2016. They overcorrected in 2020 from 2016, and it appears they are again overcorrecting in 2024, but in the opposite direction.

I believe Harris will win. And I suspect it will not be close in most states.

The polls that show it tied? Not credible. Look at the ground game, look at the yard signs, look at the crowds filling huge venues for the Dem candidate. Look at your local events for each candidate. Look at the money raised by each campain. What you actually see with your own eyes doesn't look like a statistical tie. Right?

Polls are inexact at best, and completely false at worst. Most pollsters have a lean or bias, and most have an agenda. Polling is a science and an art, and what questions they ask, the sample size, the demographics, the confidence level, and most of all, the weighting can skew a poll from favorable to one candidate and unfavorable to the other. And then the next one will report something opposite. They tweak their weighting and they are still getting it wrong. I am anticipating the sturm and drang of pollsters crying about how they could be so wrong after this election too. Then they will overcorrect for 2028.

I look at trends. Are most of them going in one direction? That's maybe a general guidepost, but again, that isn't definitive. I look at VoteHub, which aggregates polls that are rated A+ to B- only. And even most of their results are well within the margin of error, and some experts believe that margin of error should actually be doubled. I'm not sure how they rate pollsters so I even take that with a grain of salt.

Best advice? Don't rely on individual polls. Look around you to see what's happening.

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Actually aimed at women dominated by overbearing partners. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #1
In this case no - this is aimed at men because there is ALREADY a similar set of ads aimed at women BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #3
Even better ! Thanks. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #8
I was actually surprised to see it BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #9
Fuck Clooney. live love laugh Oct 31 #2
I agree BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #4
Well, if that's your jawn, as is said in Philadelphia. The perfect is the enemy of the good. GoneOffShore Oct 31 #5
If "the good" means embracing someone who betrayed live love laugh Oct 31 #6
Never saw what he did as 'betrayal'. But you do you. GoneOffShore Oct 31 #7
Why the chiding remarks? People have differing views here all the time. live love laugh Oct 31 #21
Eyes on the prize. Settle that score later. Right now he's an ally. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #13
"Well, if that's your jawn, as is said in Philadelphia. The perfect is the enemy of the good." BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #11
The thing about Clooney and Riner is where was their HUGE support for Harris when Biden did drop out? Bengus81 Oct 31 #20
Well, I guess then you hate Peolosi too. She just did it more quietly pulling strings. NoRethugFriends Oct 31 #26
Agree. Clooney, who? Polly Hennessey Oct 31 #28
Why is this controversial? Novara Oct 31 #10
Agree BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #12
Historical. Focus on present; debate history later. I want President Kamala Harris. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 31 #14
VP Harris is my soror as an AKA BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #15
Gotta disagree Novara Oct 31 #16
Like 2022, the "polls" are completely screwed up BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #17
Polling is completely fucked. Novara Oct 31 #23
I don't "do polls" BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #25
It comes down to critical thinking skills, which too many people lack Novara Nov 3 #33
One thing that I have noticed at some of the news sites BumRushDaShow Nov 3 #37
It was only crystal "clear" if you didn't support President Biden. live love laugh Oct 31 #29
You're pushing the GOP narrative. Novara Nov 3 #34
Every accusation is a confession seems an appropriate response for you. live love laugh Nov 3 #35
I call him George Swooney cadoman Oct 31 #18
I like the Sam Elliott ad best of all. hamsterjill Oct 31 #19
As did every Dem who thought Biden should step aside? maxsolomon Nov 4 #39
Joe saved democracy in 2020 and again in 2024 HereForTheParty Oct 31 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 31 #24
We now have a real shot at winning on Nov 5th, thanks to Clooney, Pelosi, and many more and Joe Biden. Silent Type Oct 31 #27
Thank you George Clooney SharonClark Oct 31 #32
BumRush, thank you for posting this! FakeNoose Oct 31 #30
I thought it was fascinating how they did that ad BumRushDaShow Oct 31 #31
Lol. Didn't recognize Clooney's voice ecstatic Nov 3 #36
It's all in the type of microphone one uses BumRushDaShow Nov 3 #38
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