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In reply to the discussion: Defense fund established by supporters of suspected CEO killer Luigi Mangione tops $200K [View all]moniss
(6,155 posts)which is about condoning violence and money provided to those who do and commit such acts. It is not about official approval because that is just a matter of application for which courts and politicians will weasel word when they feel the need. The examples I'm speaking of are things like people knew very well that when you set out "militia groups" aka "contractors" to take actions in an area of conflict that there are going to be people who go to excess. Any psychologist will tell you that is not an "if" it is a "when". But when it happens the people who funded it all claim "we had no idea and do not condone it" etc. But the facts are they know these things going in and it is only after being caught that they come out with the disingenuous rejection of the violence. But the idea of politicians and "leaders" being hypocritical and cowardly is nothing new which also goes to the point of long standing glorification and condoning of violence.
The slaughter of the indigenous people here in the US was also a deliberate act of murder. The reference to Hollywood is to show that not only did we do the act in reality but we romanticize it to this day and so the question of condoning is laid to rest with an undeniable verdict of guilty. Dead is still dead and there is no defense about condoning violence by saying "Oh it was authorized" or "Oh they went further than authorized". The powers that be love control of the people and projection of their power and ambitions through violence fully condoned.
So this man obviously went out of control and allegedly killed this CEO. As I posed originally the El Salvador Death Squads went out of control too. As well as the Contras. As well as the illegal squatters in the West Bank. As well as the people who raped and tortured prisoners in official prisons and black sites. But money raised for their defense and actions draws no widespread "outrage and claims of condoning violence" by government, media and the general population. Supposedly only for this individual is legal defense money inappropriate and supposedly "condoning" something.
I don't care whether you wear a hoodie and commit a violent act directly or whether you wear a suit and tie and pay others to do it for you under the guise of being "official". A stand on morals, which is what the question of condoning is about, doesn't change based on what you wear, your station in life or some "power and authority" claimed. Those who vacillate about that aren't about morals and in fact show themselves to be situational in applying some standard of conduct rather than upholding one.