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Celerity

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108. Dodgy, stitched-up article from a questionable source. It takes a few snippets of real quotes then falsely frames them.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 05:43 AM
Mar 3

Johnson was not critical of Trump to any real degree. He was kissing his arse over and over.

full video here:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/02/politics/video/sotu-speaker-johnson-says-putin-is-agressor-in-ukraine-war

Murkowski is the one who called Putin a threat to America, not Johnson. The article is misinfo there.

Here is the full transcipt when they discuss Ukraine:

https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/sotu/date/2025-03-02/segment/01

BASH: Hello. I'm Dana Bash in Washington, where the state of our union is still picking our jaws up off the floor. We are watching the fallout after a remarkable Oval Office meeting

this past week. The fallout is absolutely continuing. And we saw the shouting match between the president of the United States, the vice president of the United States, and also the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

And it left Zelenskyy's war-torn country in limbo, at an impasse with its most powerful ally, the United States while global friends and foes race to adjust to the new reality under President Trump, a transactional America first foreign policy that may cast aside longstanding alliances.

In two days, President Trump will address a joint session of Congress six weeks into his norm-shattering second term.

Here with me now is the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.

Thank you so much for being here, sir.

You said that what we witnessed in the Oval Office was an American president putting America first. What does America first mean to you? Does it mean that America's role in the world is no longer to support democracies when threatened with tyranny?

REP. MIKE JOHNSON (R-LA): No, America first is everything that that phrase implies.

I have always considered myself a Reagan Republican. I believe in the idea that he used to articulate well that, after World War II, America had a very certain responsibility. We're the last great superpower on the planet. It's very important that we maintain that status.

But we cannot maintain that status unless we maintain our own strength. And we achieve peace through strength. That was also a Reagan doctrine. So, what President Trump is doing is restoring that principle. He is a strong hand returned to the White House in a very perilous time on the world stage.

We have to bring about an end to this war in Ukraine. Putin is the aggressor. It is an unjust war. We have been crystal clear about that. But now is the time to bring it to an end. And what President Trump was trying to do in the Oval Office when Zelenskyy acted so inappropriately, in my view, was to offer them an agreement that would be a win-win-win across the board.

The mineral rights agreement is a fantastic solution to bring about an end to this conflict. And I would have hoped that President Zelenskyy would have understood that and showed some gratitude.

BASH: I want you to listen to what your fellow Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski said. She had some pretty harsh words for the strategy and what she witnessed in the Oval Office.

She said -- quote -- "I know foreign policy is not for the faint of heart, but, right now, I'm sick to my stomach as the administration appears to be walking away from our allies and embracing Putin, a threat to democracy and U.S. values around the world."


I want you to respond to that. And, also, you just said very clearly that Vladimir Putin and Russia, they are the aggressors. We have not heard that from President Trump recently.

JOHNSON: Well, I think he's been very clear on that. And I think Senator Murkowski's view on this is plainly wrong.

The person who walked away from the table yesterday was President Zelenskyy. I mean, I -- look, I have been involved in a lot of bilateral meetings like this with heads of state and dignitaries. There's a certain protocol to these events.

But for him to act as he did was rather shocking to everyone. I mean, President Zelenskyy, instead of showing gratitude, he interrupted and berated his hosts at a very perilous time for his country. He should have been anxious, I think, to enter into this agreement.


Think of it. The mental rights agreement would be a win-win for both countries. It would give us an economic interest there, and everyone around the world knows that America will always defend our interest and our people. It would have -- we would have created an economic partnership with Ukraine at a time when it needs to be reemerging.

[09:05:09]
BASH: Yes.

JOHNSON: And that would have been a great thing. And I don't understand why President Zelenskyy would not accept that gratefully.

And I think it's a big mistake, and I hope he changes his mind, because we have got to bring an end to this conflict.

BASH: Well, it sounds like he still does want that deal. And what he was trying to say -- and I'm not going to argue with you about the way that he said it. Certainly, there was yelling on both sides, as anybody who watched it could see.

But his concern was the security risk that Ukraine is under. And he doesn't feel confident that anybody should trust Vladimir Putin.

Do you think that President Trump should be trusting Vladimir Putin?

JOHNSON: President Trump said very clearly, trust but verify.

I mean, he is trying to be the change agent to breaker -- to broker a peace and an end to this conflict. And you have to have both parties at the table to do that. You have to negotiate with both parties. And there has to be a willingness on both sides to bring it to an end.

BASH: Yes. I just...

JOHNSON: Look, President Trump has shown he will not tolerate someone not fulfilling their end of a deal. And I think that this deal, the time has come. I think it's in the interest of America, of Ukraine, Russia, all of our European allies and everyone. So I'm very hopeful, as the president has said, that President Zelenskyy will come back to the table and recognize that peace is the solution here.

BASH: Less than a year ago, you risked your speakership to support more aid to Ukraine. You were pretty emotional, saying that history judges us for what we do.

Now do you think the United States should halt military assistance to Ukraine?

JOHNSON: Well, remember, as I said then and have said consistently until today, the entire point of providing the aid was to allow Ukraine to sustain itself and position them for peace negotiations.

The whole idea behind it was to hold the line to eliminate the deaths of women and children and innocent people in their country until President Trump could return to the Oval Office. I was convinced that that was going to happen and that he would be the one that was powerful enough, strong enough on the world stage to bring both parties to the table.

That is exactly the moment that we are in now. The plan worked, but now Zelenskyy has to follow through. And the fact that he acted as he did, I think, was a great disappointment. I hope it's not the end of it.

BASH: Last question on this, and then I want to turn to what's going on, on the Hill.

What is your view of Vladimir Putin?

JOHNSON: I think Vladimir Putin is an old-school communist, a former KGB agent, and he's not to be trusted, and he is dangerous.

The way I view this is that China, Russia, Iran and North Korea are engaged in a new axis, axis powers, and they are not on America's side. Let's be crystal clear about that. You have to walk circumspectly in these perilous times on the world stage.

But America is back. America is strong again.

BASH: Yes.

JOHNSON: And that is good for us and for freedom-loving people around the world



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He is about to get scolded and reprimanded by the felon liberal N proud Mar 2 #1
Hell, this is more like bluestarone Mar 2 #11
A well funded primary challenger at the very least Attilatheblond Mar 2 #64
Another L Graham ... Lovie777 Mar 2 #27
My thoughts exactly DENVERPOPS Mar 2 #88
Come on Johnson. Go give it a big smooch. You know you want to! GreenWave Mar 2 #41
And he will immediately apologize to the piece of shit. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2 #80
If he has the same opinion tomorrow morning, we may be seeing something of value . . . Journeyman Mar 2 #2
Regardless, he'll give tRump a standing ovation on Tuesday night. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2 #37
I think you hit the nail on the head. lark Mar 2 #39
If he holds these opinions for more than 25 hours BonnieJW Mar 2 #73
This orangecrush Mar 2 #85
Wow! BaronChocula Mar 2 #3
There may be big players involved behind the scenes delisen Mar 2 #14
That would also be a break UpInArms Mar 2 #19
Yes. Thiel's Palantir also contracts security with UK delisen Mar 2 #25
"Possibly markodochartaigh Mar 2 #56
Would not surprise me in the least ... nt TBF Mar 3 #121
in keeping with that, here is what Johnson said about NJCher Mar 3 #94
Beat me to it. FalloutShelter Mar 2 #30
Wow. I never thought this would happen. Maybe livetohike Mar 2 #4
You know he will be getting an angry and threatening phone call from the orange mafia monster by tommorow kimbutgar Mar 2 #5
Oh I want to be hopeful that this might lead to some real Marie Marie Mar 2 #6
The orange claudette Mar 2 #7
I think TSF okayed MAGA Mike poli-junkie Mar 2 #8
Smells like Melanie's pro-choice utterances before the election not fooled Mar 3 #112
I take this to mean fast onset dementia is on the horizon bucolic_frolic Mar 2 #9
This is surprising. He needs to lead an impeachment Qutzupalotl Mar 2 #10
He'd love for Trump and Vance to be impeached (& convicted). Then he'd be president. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2 #61
Right. Unlikely, and not much of an improvement, Qutzupalotl Mar 2 #62
This is from the Onion, right? jls4561 Mar 2 #12
That was my first thought The Madcap Mar 2 #31
If Johnson is ditching trump, then trump's in trouble. Hope so. (nt) Paladin Mar 2 #13
They are screwed. They have to choose between their constituents and Trusk. Blasphemer Mar 2 #35
You forget who's actually backing Johnson... it's not necessarily slightlv Mar 2 #52
I thought I was the only one thinking the end game was Putin taking over the US. NH Ethylene Mar 2 #71
I've posted several times how I think the USA will be repopulated... ananda Mar 3 #93
Yippers... they're sure working hard at it. slightlv Mar 3 #101
Hmm. If only they had a 5 million dollar johnnyfins Mar 3 #125
Doubt it. Performative BS. Trying to let a little steam out of the pressure cooker. nt wiggs Mar 2 #42
I just hope Johnson steps over the line, one time too many. Paladin Mar 2 #55
Those really in charge are calling the shots. Good! Nt Quixote1818 Mar 3 #128
Johnson bdamomma Mar 2 #15
I'm thinking he is playing patsy Skittles Mar 3 #109
He's flip-flopping around like a Louisiana crawfish BumRushDaShow Mar 2 #16
I have my Lil' Marko "apology for how I acted" stopwatch running right now.... Bengus81 Mar 2 #23
Maga Mike iniitally started out excoriating and insulting Zelenskyy BumRushDaShow Mar 2 #38
Wow? Can it be true? Lulu KC Mar 2 #17
Its like having a cartoon character join our side. milestogo Mar 2 #18
He is trying to make himself look presidential. bob4460 Mar 2 #20
Umm, Mike, we're now part of that axis. paleotn Mar 2 #21
Mike getting scolded by Dump in 3, 2, 1.... sakabatou Mar 2 #22
Dump might make an exception this time, dispense with the niceties, and go right to the visit Judi Lynn Mar 2 #54
Though I agree with him, I'm impatiently awaiting his Auto-da-f wolfie001 Mar 2 #24
I don't know, Mike Johnson calling Putin an "old-school communist"? FakeNoose Mar 2 #26
Yeah, Putin is NO communist. Just a regular despot with big bucks Attilatheblond Mar 2 #67
Yep - we've taught them all about the joys of capitalism FakeNoose Mar 2 #83
This isn't The Onion? Native Mar 2 #28
I was Codifer Mar 2 #47
Well let's give it 48 hours Raven123 Mar 2 #29
kabuki theater FirstLight Mar 2 #32
He did? creon Mar 2 #33
Standing ovation Mz Pip Mar 2 #34
Wow DENVERPOPS Mar 2 #36
Sounds like somebody got a call from defense contractors telling him to keep the money flowing. In this case, that's a artemisia1 Mar 2 #40
He is talking out of both sides of his mouth. JohnSJ Mar 2 #43
+1 dalton99a Mar 3 #95
Oh my, did they drop? Buddyzbuddy Mar 2 #44
Interesting, sounds contradictory to this: Johnson says Zelenskyy may need to resign Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2 #45
Pres Dump is trying to make the US part of the new axis of evil mdbl Mar 2 #46
Let's see what he says by Tuesday Hekate Mar 2 #48
How big of him. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2 #49
Hmmmm. notinkansas Mar 2 #50
I thought this was the Onion.😂 bamagal62 Mar 2 #51
Putin in not any school of Communist, old or otherwise. Oligarch, kleptocrat, autocrat, dictator... ToxMarz Mar 2 #53
war criminal is another. Justice matters. Mar 2 #60
How does he keep track of his kacekwl Mar 2 #57
This may have ramifications in at least part of the rest of the House. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2 #58
huff po is reporting he is among those calling for his (Zelenskys) ouster AmandaRuth Mar 2 #59
He talks out of both sides of his mouth. CanonRay Mar 2 #63
Let's hold off on bashing Mikie for a couple of days. This may be significant or just more of the same. flashman13 Mar 2 #65
MIKE , MIKE, MIKE, ...WHAT day is it?? YoshidaYui Mar 2 #66
This article Rainman4u2C Mar 2 #68
First of all NJCher Mar 2 #79
Thank you Rainman4u2C Mar 4 #133
Mike Johnson Is A Fascist Turd Gestated In Trump's Septic Bowels And Shat Out Of His Prolapsed Gaping Asshole MayReasonRule Mar 4 #132
One of two things will happen real soon. patphil Mar 2 #69
Speaker Johnson says Zelenskyy may have to resign after fiery Oval Office meeting Galraedia Mar 2 #70
The sky is blue, and water is wet Pototan Mar 2 #72
He's a Republican. Republicans lie. It's what they do. It's who they are. hatrack Mar 2 #74
Better not go close to any windows.. Playingmantis Mar 2 #75
I thought this was important, when I first saw it. elleng Mar 2 #76
It is important NJCher Mar 2 #89
Post removed Post removed Mar 2 #77
Mike you know what you have to do for the good of the country Blues Heron Mar 2 #78
Expect a mewling doublespeak backtrack to placate The Dotard soon. RockRaven Mar 2 #81
Is this the onion? Iris Mar 2 #82
FAFO applegrove Mar 2 #84
The irony here is that soldierant Mar 2 #86
Did any of you check the site?. cachukis Mar 2 #87
nope, nope, nopity nope NJCher Mar 3 #91
Have found the Daily Boulder questionable. cachukis Mar 3 #116
Mike: You can give your heart to Jesus usonian Mar 2 #90
Mike the Magician BidenRocks Mar 3 #92
Putin will address a joint session of Congress probably later this year and Johnson will clap dalton99a Mar 3 #96
Johnson has backed asset forfeiture from Russia as late as last year NJCher Mar 3 #97
Defense contractors are huge donors IbogaProject Mar 3 #98
yep NJCher Mar 3 #100
This Caught Me Flatfooted DallasNE Mar 3 #99
I don't believe a word that comes out of ANY Republican's mouth. ReRe Mar 3 #102
see post NJCher Mar 3 #103
There you go. ReRe Mar 3 #106
At first I thought this was from The Onion nt timvrip Mar 3 #104
Johnson SuzyandPuffpuff Mar 3 #105
Cannot believe it.. ellise Mar 3 #107
grow a pair of what? Skittles Mar 3 #110
Dodgy, stitched-up article from a questionable source. It takes a few snippets of real quotes then falsely frames them. Celerity Mar 3 #108
These points have already been made NJCher Mar 3 #111
Post 68 did not go into any detail. I gave the entire transcript from the start until they finished discussing Putin and Celerity Mar 3 #113
You can't dismiss the fact NJCher Mar 3 #114
I do not have to 'look deeper' as I have read the entire transcript AND watched the full video, neither of which show Celerity Mar 3 #115
And this NJCher Mar 3 #117
It is not thinking error from my end whatsoever. Your OP's article source pushes a false quote and problematic framing. Celerity Mar 3 #120
I think you don't understand NJCher Mar 3 #122
The Daily Boulder isn't a reputable source, nor is it a mainstream source. Celerity Mar 3 #123
Johnson obviously remembered what Dick Cheney taught him to sing in Kindergarten: DFW Mar 3 #118
Lying for Jesus! travelingthrulife Mar 3 #119
Christian Nationalists versus Billionaire Tech guys. pandr32 Mar 3 #124
trump and vance have isolated themselves LuvLoogie Mar 3 #126
So Trump is not calling the shots. Someone in the background with a lot of money is nt Quixote1818 Mar 3 #127
This is the POS who said: "The videos you saw of the town halls were for paid protesters... red dog 1 Mar 3 #129
Bullshit pipedream. I don't believe it for a second. K&R, nt. druidity33 Mar 3 #130
So Johnson and his religious radicals don't want to convert to Russian Orthodox? SupportSanity Mar 4 #131
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