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Cirsium

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18. Plain search used to do that

Reply to reACTIONary (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 10, 2026, 06:07 PM

14 hrs ago

Search results at one time "cut right to the chase" before Google destroyed it.

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Nobody needs AI to search the Internet, court says in ruling against Google [View all] highplainsdem 16 hrs ago OP

Wow, this is a great ruling. I hope it holds! SunSeeker 15 hrs ago #1

Outside of the issue of defamatory statements... reACTIONary 15 hrs ago #2

You can find them useful. Doesn't change the fact that AI isn't necessary for the task, which these companies are all Karasu 15 hrs ago #4

Nobody is forcing users to use AI.... reACTIONary 14 hrs ago #13

Um..yes, they are. "Scrolling down" doesn't change that. Companies forcing the use of AI goes MUCH farther than simple Karasu 14 hrs ago #17

Unless you check everything in the AI overview - every alleged fact, every quote, every source - you highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #5

It's not really that hard to check it out.... reACTIONary 14 hrs ago #12

LOL! In other words, you don't check. And it sounds as if you'd use AI overviews you hadn't bothered highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #31

If you look at a page from a "regular" web page search, do you.... reACTIONary 11 hrs ago #34

I've seen news stories including studies about the links in AI overviews often not actually leading highplainsdem 11 hrs ago #36

I'm focused on the value AI brings to .... reACTIONary 9 hrs ago #50

AI search on the internet is a parasite killing its host. There's no value in that. The errors make its highplainsdem 9 hrs ago #51

Well then, if that's the case, eventually..... reACTIONary 9 hrs ago #52

Of all the silly comparisons. Calculators would never have been widely used if they were as error-prone highplainsdem 8 hrs ago #57

I sometimes post AI search results here, and.... reACTIONary 8 hrs ago #58

The whopper is everything you've said suggesting people should trust AI results. Even AI companies highplainsdem 8 hrs ago #61

The problem with AI overviews is that they're not reliable. ShazzieB 14 hrs ago #14

I think they are more reliable than some make them out to be.... reACTIONary 14 hrs ago #16

There are still whoppers aplenty. cab67 11 hrs ago #38

Plain search used to do that Cirsium 14 hrs ago #18

Your experience with "plain search" and with... reACTIONary 14 hrs ago #19

it isn't a matter of opinion Cirsium 14 hrs ago #20

It seems to be a subjective judgement to me.... reACTIONary 13 hrs ago #23

OK Cirsium 12 hrs ago #30

Wow! Thanks.... reACTIONary 12 hrs ago #32

Thank you Cirsium 8 hrs ago #60

I sometimes find them amusing. cab67 11 hrs ago #37

And you just admitted you have to wade through irrelevant junk... paleotn 10 hrs ago #42

Then one has to verify that it's not inaccurate slop GenThePerservering 9 hrs ago #46

We were able to do it just fine (in fact, better) BEFORE this immensely destructive shit came along. Karasu 15 hrs ago #3

Yes. Search was much better before. highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #6

The quality of their searches declined significantly. hunter 13 hrs ago #27

AI "search" Be Leave On 15 hrs ago #7

Profitable, because we are a post-literate society. SouthBayDem 8 hrs ago #56

Fuck Google! caballojm 15 hrs ago #8

DuckDuckGo has an AI, but they actually allow you to completely turn it off, and they have a version of their site that Karasu 14 hrs ago #10

Same here. paleotn 10 hrs ago #43

Everyone getting those commercials claiming we need a million data centers Bengus81 14 hrs ago #9

Here's what's wrong with the massive data centers ... FakeNoose 25 min ago #65

Kick dalton99a 14 hrs ago #11

I want to know how Progressive dog 14 hrs ago #15

I have not seen contradictions, but I think vanlassie 14 hrs ago #22

I have seen something worse than a contradiction. pnwmom 13 hrs ago #24

Yea that's bad. I would never accept personal info vanlassie 12 hrs ago #28

You could find it just as easily with a 'precisely composed query' GenThePerservering 9 hrs ago #47

I've been a heavy user of the internet for many years. vanlassie 7 hrs ago #62

Even more reprehensible... GiqueCee 14 hrs ago #21

Yes. People need to realize that every single writer, visual artist, photographer, singer, musician, highplainsdem 10 hrs ago #44

Nailed it! GiqueCee 9 hrs ago #45

It's human nature to expect the biggest reward for the lowest cost. SouthBayDem 9 hrs ago #53

So the AI bros ripping off the world's intellectual property is just human nature? highplainsdem 8 hrs ago #59

Republicans will pass a law making it illegal to restrict AI search Bobstandard 13 hrs ago #25

'Almost Intelligence' trains from anything it can find (within reason, supposedly) 3825-87867 13 hrs ago #26

"Imitation Intelligence" is a good name. hunter 12 hrs ago #29

It's pretty easy to tell if Republicans are lying!--- Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #33

I call it a fancy shorthand for Anti-Intellectualism. SouthBayDem 9 hrs ago #54

I wish this was here. Figarosmom 11 hrs ago #35

I probably don't ask complicated questions, but I find the Google AI helpful Bluetus 11 hrs ago #40

I've asked about current news events Figarosmom 11 hrs ago #41

That's an astute judge. But it goes beyond that. Bluetus 11 hrs ago #39

This is something a lot of people don't understand GenThePerservering 9 hrs ago #49

very insightful. that's why hallucinations will never go away altogether. nt scipan 8 hrs ago #55

People still use Google? It's a spy agency that sells your data. I stopped ages ago. usonian 9 hrs ago #48

Type -ai at the end of your search and you'll find out how little you need AI Bengus81 59 min ago #63

AI regurgitates a lot of garbage and presents itself as fact. Historic NY 45 min ago #64