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zzaapp

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23. Hi GD
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:11 AM
Aug 2012

If I may, I have been a (semi successful) musician/song writer for many years. May I offer a little advice?
I'm not sure what kind of a song you are writing, fast/slow,
radio friendly/avant garde, country/rock but here are some basic guidelines

When you start to write a song most writers start with what's called "the hook". The hook is the catchy, often repeated phrase or riff that "hooks" the listener into the song. This hook could be anywhere in the song, but it is more likely to be the first line of the "chorus"
examples. "relax, don't do it", "pour some sugar on me"
"You got to know when to hold em"

The hook is often a clever play on words (but you don't want to get too cute) example: "Stop in the name of love"

I'm not sure how advanced you are in song writing, so I'm sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious. One last thing, I don't want to be long winded.

Song structure (very important)
There are MANY ways that a song can be structured, but when first starting out, it's a good idea to stick to a basic format until you become comfortable with lyric writing. The basic form is this.

1. Intro music (optional) the intro music is often the chords/riff that comprises "the hook" (with no lyrics)
2. Verse1 (usually 4 lines)
3. Verse 2 (usually 4 lines)
4. Chorus ( usually 4 lines with "the hook/lyrics as the first line
Often times the first and last lines are the same (the hook)
5. Musical break containing a solo (guitar,harmonica keyboard
6. verse 3. (4 lines). Often used as a story closer for the first
2 verses, OR contains a surprise ending.
7. Chorus ( often but not always identical to the first chorus)
8. Repeat chorus.

If this has been helpful, I will be glad to offer more advice.
It would help if I knew the type/tempo/genre of song that you are trying to write. Good luck.





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How do you write lyrics? [View all] geardaddy Jan 2012 OP
Do you have a melody? A rhythm? Scuba Jan 2012 #1
I have chords and a bass line geardaddy Jan 2012 #3
The you're on your way. Like others on the thread said, "feel it"... Scuba Jan 2012 #5
Thanks! geardaddy Jan 2012 #6
Feel your subject. i_sometimes Jan 2012 #2
Thanks geardaddy Jan 2012 #4
You're On The Hard Part ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #7
As a person who writes for a living geardaddy Jan 2012 #8
I like to feel it too... onpatrol98 Jan 2012 #11
I have a few methods: rbnyc Jan 2012 #9
Thank you thank you thank you! geardaddy Jan 2012 #10
I stopped playing out over 10 years ago. rbnyc Jan 2012 #12
Just beautiful Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #13
Thanks. rbnyc Jan 2012 #14
Writing lyrics mrk1839 Jul 2012 #15
Welcome to DU, mrk1839! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2012 #16
Hershey boy mrk1839 Jul 2012 #17
Thanks for your comments! geardaddy Jul 2012 #18
I can only write lyrics and music in a muse driven burst of inspired Zorra Aug 2012 #19
It's usually frustrating, even a few years in. borelord Aug 2012 #20
Here is a trick you can try Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #21
I'll try that! geardaddy Aug 2012 #22
Hi GD zzaapp Aug 2012 #23
Hi zzaapp geardaddy Aug 2012 #24
Glad to do it, if you have any more questions, please feel free to zzaapp Aug 2012 #25
+1 pretty good description of pop song formatting Tunkamerica Aug 2012 #27
Yes, I try to work zzaapp Aug 2012 #29
try memorizing those lyrics sometime. Tunkamerica Aug 2012 #30
LOLOL...there's NO WAY I could memorize that song zzaapp Aug 2012 #31
Speaking as a professional amateur... I tend to come up with an interesting Tunkamerica Aug 2012 #26
Cool geardaddy Aug 2012 #28
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