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DFW

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4. Common sense has little to do with it, and the EU is partly to blame.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 07:27 AM
Sep 2019

As continental Europeans are want to do, the moment the EU came into being, they loaded it with a bloated, expensive and unnecessary bureaucracy, just like in most of the member states that make it up. Denmark almost gave up its membership within a week of joining when the EU bureaucracy declared that Danish apples were too small to conform to what their rules said could be called apples. The Danes were told they would have to call their apples something else. The Danes said that if THIS is what EU membership meant, then they weren't interested after all. The EU quickly relented, and "graciously" let the Danes call their apples "apples."

France insisted that the EU parliament not be headquartered only in Brussels. They wanted part of the pie (i.e. billions in costs charged to the EU). So a huge EU parliament building now stands in Strasbourg, France, some 400 KM from Brussels. Once a month, the whole paperwork is loaded onto a convoy of trucks, and brought for a week from Brussels to Strasbourg. At taxpayer cost, the whole EU parliament travels there, stays in expensive hotels and eats at the great restaurants there--at EU taxpayer cost. This was featured prominently in the pro-Brexit TV ads before the first referendum. It cost UK taxpayers alone tens of millions of pounds (a month or a year, I forget, but it was insane) just for their share of these costs. The UK was working feverishly for reforms within the EU, but they were swimming against the tide. Bureaucrats DO love their perks, after all, and the EU has no shortage of them.

In the bigger picture, of course Brexit is a loser for the UK (and the EU). But the Brexiteers played on people's emotions, and figured, correctly, that enough voters in the UK would see how obvious a bad move it would be to leave, and not bother to vote. "How stupid do they think we are, after all?" Well, now they know. As we saw in the USA less than half a year later, such stupidity is not limited to the far side of the Atlantic.

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I can't understand why the UK is doing this Brexit thing, seems like a total loser to me. katmondoo Sep 2019 #1
Common sense has little to do with it, and the EU is partly to blame. DFW Sep 2019 #4
Brexit was sold to the Brits based on lies and fear RVN VET71 Sep 2019 #11
Same thing that's happening in the U.S. Grokenstein Sep 2019 #7
A number of reasons The King of Prussia Sep 2019 #8
Rather than "Let's just get it over with" DFW Sep 2019 #2
Of course it's ripping up the UK. That's what Putin wanted when he funded the campaign. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #3
...and did I mention PUTIN and his MOB are going for our 2020 elections too? DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #5
Rifts in the EU and NATO definitely serve Russian interests more than any of ours. n/t DFW Sep 2019 #6
It's interesting that non-UK-based DU members always jump so quickly to blame "PUTIN!!!". Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #10
You are missing the essence. ALL MOBS, indeed all monopolies, are killing democracy. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #12
I don't believe I'm missing anything. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #14
I don't necessarily blame Putin as a main cause, just a big beneficiary DFW Sep 2019 #15
He could be a beneficiary. But the EU was expected to implode with Brexit. It hasn't. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #16
You really think it was Putin? The King of Prussia Sep 2019 #17
I'm sorry you feel that way... DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #18
They're free to disagree. It's still not persuasive. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #19
Time to reclassify 'Lord of the Flies' as a dystopian prediction? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #9
It's not the people spreading chaos. ALL MOBS, indeed all monopolies, are killing democracy. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #13
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